Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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October 27, 2012 | #31 |
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I do both total weight and numbers and do not include cherries or salad size.
large tomatoes Tsar Kolokol: 90 tomatoes/40 lbs. Italian Sweet: 60 tomatoes/29 lbs (60 green fruits/12lbs.) Fish Lake Oxheart: 59/28 lbs. medium size Sylvan Guame: 115/34 lbs (33 green/7 lbs) This was a bad year for both size and weight because of the intense heat and drought.
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October 29, 2012 | #32 |
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Needless to say, with >550 varieties trialed in 2012, I couldn't manage the time to measure output of each one. But these are impressions from a faulty memory of some varieties which kept pumping out tomatoes nearly every time I picked (in no particular order):
Emerald Evergreen Dawson's Russian Oxheart Yoder's German Yellow Mémé Beauce Rose Beauty MegaMarv KBX Leadbeatter's Lunker Carbon Tuxhorn's Red and Yellow Orlov Yellow White Oxheart Big Zac (OP) (especially if you're just counting pounds per plant) Carmello Cosmonaut Volkov Purple Calabash Cuostralée Dester Old German German Johnson Guido Portuguese Monster (at least later in the season) Monomakh's Hat (but what I have is not pointed - more like a medium-sized beefsteak) Mr. Stripey Oaxacan Jewel Many others produced very well also, despite it being a record hot year. |
October 29, 2012 | #33 |
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Nice looking list of some interesting varieties. I want to comment just about one and that's what you list as Dawson's Russian Oxheart.
That was bred by Jeff Dawson in CA, someone I know well, as a selection from an initial cross between Russian #117 , a red double heart, and Georgia Streak, a typical gold/red bicolor. Jeff named it Orange Russian #117. Somewhere along the way it got known as Dawson's Russian Oxheart at a couple of places . I know several years ago Marianne Jones did and I shared with her that it should be Orange Russian #117 and now I see she still lists it as Dawson, etc., but then says Orange Russian #117 is the same. What I pulled up this AM from Marianne's site was info from her 2012 plant sales but I assume her description is the same in the regular list but didn't check that. http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=...iw=757&bih=403 Honest I'm not being picky, but after a thread and several posts where I saw one person upset b'c he'd bought seeds for the Dawson named one and then also bought seeds for the Orange Russian one from another place, thinking they were two different varieties, I thought it might help if I clarified the names and there's also a thread here at TV about the two different names. He was not very happy. Jeff was a listed SSE member for many years and that's where he first listed Orange Russian #117, so all Yearbook listings for it have been what Jeff named it and not Dawson, etc. And it isn't the only variety that has two different names either. Hope that helps.
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October 29, 2012 | #34 |
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My top producer by far this year was Adah's Potato leaf, wonderful pink, slicer, heirloom. Other's that were very memorable were Fishlake Oxheart, Danko, Absinthe, Indian Stripe Burson, and Marmande.
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October 29, 2012 | #35 | |
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Yes, Clyde Burson Sr. was the original source of seeds to my friend Donna, who has family near him and it was she who sent me the seeds. Mr Burson had said that it was know as either Indian Stripe or Indian Zebra in the area where he lived. I asked Donna what name I should call it and she said either one since both names were used, so I chose Indian Stripe ( no Burson as part of the name) and first offered it in the SSE YEarbook in, well, I had to go look but it was somwhere around 2004: http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Indian_Stripe Hope that helps.
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October 29, 2012 | #36 |
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Most of Tarasenko vareities are perfect producers with multi-flora type trusses with total fruit yield of 1-3 kg
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October 31, 2012 | #37 |
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This was my seed source for "Dawson's Russian Oxheart"
http://www.dianeseeds.com/tomato-daw...n-oxheart.html These produced distinctly bi-colored hearts for me, just as listed at: https://www.mariannasheirloomseeds.c...rt-detail.html Marianne lists Pat Kennedy as her seed source. Mine also match the description of Orange Russian #117 at Tatiana's site. I wholeheatedly agree that it's best to stick with original names whenever possible. As if 12,000 varieties names were not enough... Anyhow, here's one of my pics of Orange Russian #117 - an outstanding variety!: |
October 31, 2012 | #38 | |
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I think it is unique since off hand I don't know of another gold/red bicolor heart, and yes, I've grown it.
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November 1, 2012 | #39 |
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While this was a great year for all my Brandywine's and Brandywine crosses and similar types, it was the German Johnson-Benton Strain that was grafted to Maxifort rootstock that really out-produced everything.
The same variety grown from seed wasn't far behind. Barlow Jap was another great producer as was Purple Dog Creek. Dana's Dusky Rose was the best producing Black. Enjoy! Camo |
November 1, 2012 | #40 |
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Not counting my cherries or my early varieties, my best producers were Hoy, Wes, Fred Limbaughs Potato Top, Stump Of The World, and Barlow Jap. My best early variety was a hybrid named Fourth Of July. It started producing golf ball size tomatoes in mid May and is still producing on November 1. The only thing that will stop it will be the first frost or freeze this month. I planted four plants of FOJ on March 1. Next year, I will only plant two plants. When my large varieties started producing ripe tomatoes, I started throwing the FOJ tomatoes over the fence to get rid of them. My dog was able to eat tomatoes at his leisure all summer long.
The funny thing for me has been the abundance of tomatoes I've grown this year. I gave them to anyone and everyone who would take them. I was begging and borrowing Walmart bags to transport tomatoes to hair dressers, fire stations, food pantries, churches and anyplace else I could think of. While I love good tomatoes, I've probably only eaten eight or ten tomatoes all summer. I know that in mid January, I will start anticipating the taste of a warm, sun ripened heirloom tomato from next years garden. Ted |
November 1, 2012 | #41 |
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Our most productive varieties this year were:
Rozovyi Myod (Pink Honey)- 21 pounds per plant Strawberry- 26 pounds Russian Queen-25 pounds Costoluto- 23 pounds |
November 1, 2012 | #42 |
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Ted - My one Fourth of July, neglected and in a 7 gallon pot is also still producing, has ripe fruit, green fruit and new flowers on it right now. I had about 6 weeks of triple digit and found, as you did, it is unstoppable! I rarely get heavy frost and it is near a large patio overhang. I am guessing I can bring it thru our fairly mild winter, likely producing the whole time.
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November 1, 2012 | #43 |
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Linda,
Cut a sucker off the plant, root it in some moist soil: and then plant the clone in the same pot. If you rarely get frost, you can keep the same plant growing and producing for years. As fast as the FOJ grows, you will rarely not have tomatoes. I grew a few FOJ clones this fall and they are also growing and producing right now. Ted |
November 2, 2012 | #44 |
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Linda, does FOJ have a "beefsteak" flavor or is it sweet? If it's not sweet I'll grow my first FOJ.
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November 2, 2012 | #45 |
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Deborah - Not sweet for me. FOJ has a typical, not sweet early red flavor. Not a great tomato for flavor, but I think it is pretty good, especially when NOTHING ELSE is setting!
Ted - I took several cuttings this afternoon! |
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