Marbonne, Marnero, Margold - Page 3

Gardeneer · November 1, 2015

So what were the 2015 results ? Any ?
This thread started in November , 2014 and therefore the fans should've had a chance to grow them in 2015.
It was mentioned than Marbone was similar to CP but 30% more productive !
How would Indian Stripe compare to that? and it is OP. I am asking b/c I want to replace CP with IS.
Gardeneer

Fred Hempel · November 2, 2015

I was underwhelmed. They did fine, but did not perform better than similar heirlooms.

In my field Cherokee Purple did much better than Marnero and while Margold may have produced more consistently than Big Rainbow or similar, the fruits were not outstanding. That said, large bicolors are (for me) some of the most challenging tomato types to get good production and good flavor out of.

Margold did not solve my problems.

travis · November 3, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Hempel

I was underwhelmed. They did fine, but did not perform better than similar heirlooms.

In my field Cherokee Purple did much better than Marnero and while Margold may have produced more consistently than Big Rainbow or similar, the fruits were not outstanding. That said, large bicolors are (for me) some of the most challenging tomato types to get good production and good flavor out of.

Margold did not solve my problems.

Here is a post that makes me wish we had a "LIKE" button.

Fred Hempel · November 3, 2015

I did neglect to mention that these tomatoes have Verticillium, Leaf Mold and TMV resistance, and for some growers these may make the varieties more than worthwhile.

These are not my major problems.

Gardeneer · November 4, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Hempel

I was underwhelmed. They did fine, but did not perform better than similar heirlooms.

In my field Cherokee Purple did much better than Marnero and while Margold may have produced more consistently than Big Rainbow or similar, the fruits were not outstanding. That said, large bicolors are (for me) some of the most challenging tomato types to get good production and good flavor out of.

Margold did not solve my problems.

Thanks for reporting, Fred.
A 20 bucks experiment (for seeds !)

Gardeneer

Fred Hempel · November 4, 2015

20 bucks is not much to pay, if the varieties match well with your growing situation.

If a variety with disease resistance gives higher yield in one's site, it would be well worth the extra cost.

That was just not the case for me. I might have a completely different opinion if I was trying to grow those types of tomatoes for market, in a situation where the disease package was important for production in my area.

The fact that these varieties have Leaf Mold resistance and TMV resistance indicates that they are suited for greenhouse growth (where they also may outperform similar heirlooms in other ways too, in greenhouses). Since I don't grow in greenhouses, I would not see any of these advantages either.

Cole_Robbie · November 18, 2016

I had thought everything in my garden was dead by late July, so I stopped going out there. In cleaning everything out, from 300 or so plants, the Marbonne looked the best out of everything. It was still producing. I never got to try one, but I picked some green. One finally ripened, and this particular tomato is not great, but I think it will be at least decent under better conditions. I'm going to try a pack for the high tunnel next spring. We'll see how they handle cold weather.

By the way, Fred, Red Bumble Bee and Sunrise Bumble Bee were my other two strongest tomato plants in the abandoned garden.

Fred Hempel · November 18, 2016

Can you tell me specifically which Red Bumblebee did well?

I can look it up, but if you know offhand...

Cole_Robbie · November 18, 2016

BBH05 and BBH10

AKmark · November 18, 2016

I grew Marbonne this year, it was okay, had several red beefsteaks that were better.

Cole_Robbie · November 18, 2016

I'm hoping it can take the brutal flip-flopping that my early spring weather has been the past few years.

Fred Hempel · November 18, 2016

Interesting. BBH5 scored very well for us. BBH10 did not.

The only reason that we are not viewing BBH5 as a top line this year is that one of the parents needs more refining. We saw some variability with this hybrid.

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Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

BBH05 and BBH10

November 1, 2015	#31
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,919	So what were the 2015 results ? Any ? This thread started in November , 2014 and therefore the fans should've had a chance to grow them in 2015. It was mentioned than Marbone was similar to CP but 30% more productive ! How would Indian Stripe compare to that? and it is OP. I am asking b/c I want to replace CP with IS. Gardeneer

November 2, 2015	#32
Fred Hempel Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sunol, CA Posts: 2,723	I was underwhelmed. They did fine, but did not perform better than similar heirlooms. In my field Cherokee Purple did much better than Marnero and while Margold may have produced more consistently than Big Rainbow or similar, the fruits were not outstanding. That said, large bicolors are (for me) some of the most challenging tomato types to get good production and good flavor out of. Margold did not solve my problems.

November 3, 2015	#34
Fred Hempel Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sunol, CA Posts: 2,723	I did neglect to mention that these tomatoes have Verticillium, Leaf Mold and TMV resistance, and for some growers these may make the varieties more than worthwhile. These are not my major problems.

November 4, 2015	#36
Fred Hempel Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sunol, CA Posts: 2,723	20 bucks is not much to pay, if the varieties match well with your growing situation. If a variety with disease resistance gives higher yield in one's site, it would be well worth the extra cost. That was just not the case for me. I might have a completely different opinion if I was trying to grow those types of tomatoes for market, in a situation where the disease package was important for production in my area. The fact that these varieties have Leaf Mold resistance and TMV resistance indicates that they are suited for greenhouse growth (where they also may outperform similar heirlooms in other ways too, in greenhouses). Since I don't grow in greenhouses, I would not see any of these advantages either.

November 18, 2016	#37
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	I had thought everything in my garden was dead by late July, so I stopped going out there. In cleaning everything out, from 300 or so plants, the Marbonne looked the best out of everything. It was still producing. I never got to try one, but I picked some green. One finally ripened, and this particular tomato is not great, but I think it will be at least decent under better conditions. I'm going to try a pack for the high tunnel next spring. We'll see how they handle cold weather. By the way, Fred, Red Bumble Bee and Sunrise Bumble Bee were my other two strongest tomato plants in the abandoned garden.

November 18, 2016	#40
AKmark Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Wasilla Alaska Posts: 2,010	I grew Marbonne this year, it was okay, had several red beefsteaks that were better.