Heart Tomatoes

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by ginger2778

I think I saw Carolyn post that Hays' was her favorite. Might have been at another website.

Mine is Grightmire's Pride.

Must have been a different Carolyn b/c while Hays' is excellent it's not my favorite.

I don't have just ONE favorite.

Carolyn

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Fiishergurl

Has anybody tried Berkeley Tie Dye Heart? And do hearts generally taste similar to their beefsteak counterparts? For example would Indian Stripe Heart taste like Indian Stripe?

Ginny

I've been offering both IS and IS Pl in my seed offers and many have requested both at the same time and yes, they taste the same, the only difference being leaf form.

I'm not sure how to answer your question about hearts tasting the same as their beefsteak counterparts, but IMO each variety that I've grown, over 4,000 plus and counting has a taste all it's own. Which makes sense to me since the primary determinate of taste are the genes that a variety has.

Just back here quickly from watching the last of the mens last semi-final matches from Paris and soon to go back.

Carolyn

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by KarenO

If Carolyn offers it again in her seed offer, you guys should try Ludmilla's pink heart. Very early for a large heart. Very, very good.

KarenO

Agree with you Karen. I haven't had time to inventory which varieties for my seed offer will be carried forward, so right now I have no idea if Ludmilla's Pink Heart will be available or not, but should know in a few weeks as I do inventory how many seeds for all varieties previously offered are left from previous offers.

Carolyn

[Hunt-Grow-Cook]

Originally Posted by Fiishergurl

Has anybody tried Berkeley Tie Dye Heart? And do hearts generally taste similar to their beefsteak counterparts? For example would Indian Stripe Heart taste like Indian Stripe?

Ginny

Ive grown it the last 3 years. This year being the first time from seeds that I saved from some large fruits last year. It does well for us, even though the plants stay farily compact. Fruits are extremly variable in shape, and the first ones being the most heart shaped. Meaty and very few seeds for me. I found it not nearly as zingy or spicy as the regular berkley tie dye, but still very good flavor.

[Gardeneer]

Rathe than starting a new thread, I activated this one:
REASON:
I am growing a Heart Shaped Variety that do not know its name, b,c I took the seeds from a store bought heirloom few years ago.
Here are some recent pictures of it. The fruits in the picture have been picked at some color break and are not ripe yet
So , I am interested in knowing the name other than just "hear", "ox Heart", "Beef Heart " etc.
Thanks in advance.
Gardeneer

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

Rathe than starting a new thread, I activated this one:
REASON:
I am growing a Heart Shaped Variety that do not know its name, b,c I took the seeds from a store bought heirloom few years ago.
Here are some recent pictures of it. The fruits in the picture have been picked at some color break and are not ripe yet
So , I am interested in knowing the name other than just "hear", "ox Heart", "Beef Heart " etc.
Thanks in advance.
Gardeneer

In my opinion there's no way that anyone can give you a variety name, even when they ripen up, and here's why:

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/C...haped_Tomatoes

No one that I know can ID any variety, with just a few exceptions, just by looking at a picture of ripe ones so the color is known, or by tasting it, since taste is not the way to ID a variety.

And if you look at that list of heart shaped ones there are lots of reds that look the same and lots of pinks that look the same etc.

I can't remember which thread it was, not that long ago, that made me look at Tania's list and copy down the names of the heart ones I'd grown, I just checked my data book where I had written them down and there were close to 80 varieties, and that doesn't include the ones in my 2014 seed offer or my late upcoming 2015 offer or the ones that are out this summer for seed producton for my 2016 offer in Jan.

I keep saying of ones I've grown so most on that list I did grow myself until I severed all the quads in my right leg, thus this walker, but I know my seed producers very well and know I like what they like. More to the point since 2005 someone else has grown my plants for me, most recently someone local, so out in the backyard are some of the newest ones that Freda cares for, so I can personally judge for myself since after all, I'm the one with the seeds initially.

Once a variety has become separated from its original name it becomes an orphan, and sometimes even then someone will rename it which causes even more confusion, and here's an example of that.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/J...b=General_Info

The whole story is not there but it was a known variety at one time, no one in the family could remember the name, so it was renamed Jean's Prize for the reason given.

Carolyn

[patty_b]

I like the ribbed shape and heart. I cannot think of a heart that I have grown that would be ribbed like that! Is the center solid or hollow when cut?

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by patty_b

I like the ribbed shape and heart. I cannot think of a heart that I have grown that would be ribbed like that! Is the center solid or hollow when cut?

Me either as to a ribbed heart.

But Patty does know a small square one, red, that's ribbed, since she was one of 3 who did seed production for it for me, coming up in my 2015 seed offer.

And Patty had also sent me two boxes of tomatoes just a couple of week ago, bless you, and that ribbed one was there.

Patty, I have to tell you that I shared a few of them with Martha who prepares my meals for me and she loved them, was pleased there weren't many seeds and with that comment I was trying not to laugh, so my hopes are up that others might enjoy them as well.

Carolyn, who was so very pleased when Freda brought in a huge Istra fruit today, yes, some small ones such as Verde Claro, Iva's Red Berry, Casino Chips and Mini Yellow, but not many big ones, just not many blossoms on them from the get go when it was cold into July.

[Tormato]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Me either as to a ribbed heart.

But Patty does know a small square one, red, that's ribbed, since she was one of 3 who did seed production for it for me, coming up in my 2015 seed offer.

And Patty had also sent me two boxes of tomatoes just a couple of week ago, bless you, and that ribbed one was there.

Patty, I have to tell you that I shared a few of them with Martha who prepares my meals for me and she loved them, was pleased there weren't many seeds and with that comment I was trying not to laugh, so my hopes are up that others might enjoy them as well.

Carolyn, who was so very pleased when Freda brought in a huge Istra fruit today, yes, some small ones such as Verde Claro, Iva's Red Berry, Casino Chips and Mini Yellow, but not many big ones, just not many blossoms on them from the get go when it was cold into July.

Carolyn,

Did you introduce Lithuanian Crested Pink?

[Gardeneer]

Thanks Carolyn and Patty.
I will cut in a few days and take pictures. I think it is solid inside, NO hollow cavities in it.

The closest to mine (Both in color and shape) Is German Red Strawberry;

In the first picture , on lower left corner is a picture of mine (I believe it is), from last year.
In the second picture ( from Tania's) I found this to be most close, in shape and color.

[PaulF]

These are two hearts that this year are ribbed. On the left is Korol London and on the right is Ludmilla's Pink Heart. These are the only two I have right now but they have been ribbed all year, some more deeply than others.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Tormato

Carolyn,

Did you introduce Lithuanian Crested Pink?

No, I didn't introduce Lithuanian Cresed Pink which is being grown this year here at home and two fruits out on the counter ripening up.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/L...n_Crested_Pink

But I did introduce the variety Lithuanian,

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Lithuanian

Don Podolia was a coal miner in W VA and there were many men who worked in the coal mines who came from different countries and that's how I got quite a few of those varieties, from seeds they brought with them, shared with Don and he shared with me.

Don's wife was/is an RN. She came home from work one day saw him sitting in a chair under a tree, thought he was asleep, but he had died. I remember her calling me and telling me about it.

He was a wonderful friend and loved to grow his tomatoes as well as peppers and for sure I sent him back seeds of this and that to thank him. We traded back and forth for many years.

Carolyn

[SummerSky]

Last year I grew Ernesto, but was relatively unimpressed with it. It was a slug magnet, and while it's fruits were huge and looked like pumpkins, it wasn't very productive.

This year, I have Rozovyi Myod (Pink Honey), Orange Russian 117, and Work Release. Of the three, Work Release is by and far my favorite. Pound for pound, I find it more productive than most of the plants I have growing. What they lack in numbers, they make up for in size. Big solid fruit that mills easily and has few seeds and isn't swimming in juice (I wouldn't exactly call it "dry" though). Since my main point for growing tomatoes is sauce, they work beautifully for it. They can be used as slicers as well.

To me, though, the hearts have been a real joy this year. They start out as these wussy little plants that look two seconds away from getting knocked over in a light breeze and grow into HUGE plants that support HUGE tomatoes.

I'm excited to grow more hearts next year

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by PaulF

These are two hearts that this year are ribbed. On the left is Korol London and on the right is Ludmilla's Pink Heart. These are the only two I have right now but they have been ribbed all year, some more deeply than others.

Paul, I was the one who first introduced Ludmilla's Pink Heart , seeds from Reinhard Kraft, by SSE listing it andI've grownitmany times.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/L...27s_Pink_Heart

More pictures from Google Images but you have to put your mouse over a picture to be sure it's the right variety.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...50.OFTJdZEt2fE

I don't consider it ribbed at all b'c I can see the same thing with almost all of my hearts at the stem end. What I consider ribbed,pleated, is something like Pink Accordian where the pleats go from top to bottom and are deep.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Pink_Accordion

Or Zapotec

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Zapotec

OR Selbo's Red Ribbed.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussi...to-that-i-grow

Which will be offered in my now very late 2015 seed offer.

Korol London? Out for seed production this summer and fingers crossed since the person doing it grows in IL and last I talked to him he had doubts about many of his plants b'c of all the rain in June and July.

Carolyn

[Tormato]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

No, I didn't introduce Lithuanian Cresed Pink which is being grown this year here at home and two fruits out on the counter ripening up.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/L...n_Crested_Pink

But I did introduce the variety Lithuanian,

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Lithuanian

Don Podolia was a coal miner in W VA and there were many men who worked in the coal mines who came from different countries and that's how I got quite a few of those varieties, from seeds they brought with them, shared with Don and he shared with me.

Don's wife was/is an RN. She came home from work one day saw him sitting in a chair under a tree, thought he was asleep, but he had died. I remember her calling me and telling me about it.

He was a wonderful friend and loved to grow his tomatoes as well as peppers and for sure I sent him back seeds of this and that to thank him. We traded back and forth for many years.

Carolyn

My faulty memory over you introducing Lithuanian, not Lithuanian Crested Pink. If you look at Tatiana's pictures of LCP, at least I got the ribbed heart right, in my memory.