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Very cool. Temperature, the great regulator. Look forward to more and more blue!! Thans D_A.
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Other examples of blue contamination.
140 ananas libanaise 1.jpg 141 ananas jaune PDT 2.jpg 142 ananas rouge PDT 3.jpg 143 ananas jaune dec PDT 4.jpg 144 ananas rouge dec PDT 5.jpg 145 ananas orange PDT 6.jpg 146 ananas rouge rose PDT 7.jpg 147 ananas rouge reg 8.jpg 148 ananas rouge et bleue reg 9.jpg 149 ananas fin 10.jpg |
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D) Bumblebees sow the blue ill-feeling
A) Introduction. I realized several crossings in 2010 and 2011. But I noticed that I obtained fortuitous crossings. I thus followed my crossings and the fortuitous crossings by means of my testers during several years. Furthermore, I obtained some seeds of several varieties of known hybriders (Tom Wagner, Frogsleap-Farm (Mark Mccaslin) and Reinhard Kraft). I observed certain crossings of these hybriders and I located certain identical phenomena at any time: fortuitous crossings giving rather different tomatoes. I got used to realizing for all the studied crossings the family tree of the obtained tomatoes. I am not going to review them all but I am going to show you what I obtained with my crossings realized and obtained accidentally at my home and my testers. 174 tree Purple Haze.jpg 175 tree Purp le Haze2.jpg 176 tree Purp le Haze F6.jpg Last edited by Ambiorix; November 20, 2015 at 08:36 AM. |
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My crossings with Purple Haze
Purple Haze has four interesting characteristics: - tomatoes are rather big - tomatoes are flavourful - it is a variety with leaves of potatoes - it is also an allogamy variety. Thus as the blue tomato, its pollen can transport itself easily from a variety to an other one. Thus during several years, I followed very much crossings created by the hand of the man: P20 * Purple Haze F4 (?) Purple Haze F4 * P20 (?) OSU76 * Purple Haze F4 ( Ambiorix) Purple Haze F4 * OSU76 ( Ambiorix). I thus noticed that I obtained a big quantity of kinds of blue and not blue tomatoes, little and big tomatoes with leaves of potatoes and with regular leaves. And thus in 2014, I obtained a crossing with one " pineapple blue " and a purple Haze: big tomatoes which had leaves of potatoes with anthocyanins. 177 4056 PX cotyl.jpg 178 4056 PX cotyl2.jpg 179 4056 PX tom.jpg 180 4056 PX decp.jpg 180 4072PX cotyl.jpg 181 4072PX cotyl2.jpg 182 4072PX cotyl3.jpg 183 4072PX feuille.jpg 184 4061PX cotyl.jpg 185 4061PX reg et pot2.jpg 186 4061PX reg et pot2.jpg 187 4061PX poids.jpg 188 4061PX tom.jpg 189 4061PX tom decp.jpg 190 4061PX tom decp.jpg 191 4061PX tom decp2.jpg 192 cicatrice stylaire.jpg |
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Remark:Cat face
It is the physiological disease which affects particularly the big tomatoes which are subjected to very unfavorable particular weather conditions (low temperature) which take place during the flowering and the fruit setting. (It arrives from time to time with the variety Purple Haze and in certain crossings with this variety) |
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F) Some descendants of 2098AB (One pineapple blue)
193 trre 2098AB.jpg In 2014, from seeds of the tomato obtained by Gerd (3108GW), I thus have at first 3 sorts of tomatoes obtained by 4 testers: - an orange flesh-coloured blue orange and an orange and blue skin 4010BZ - one " pineapple blue " yellow flesh and yellow and blue skin 4640AB: no in compliance with cause of the shape of the tomato - One yellow flesh-coloured blue pineapple and yellow and blue skin: good shape. But in 2014, I obtained a looking like tomato in green zebra and in Zebra Rita from the seeds of Gerd:3108GW. I kept the seeds of 4 tomatoes of which I kept seeds for part which thus carry different numbers. In 2015, I obtained 5890AB which looks like her mother 4793AB, green zebra and to Zebra Rita (which is a crossing of Tom Wagner between black pineapple and green zebra). 3 other references gave every time of the different tomatoes: 5508AB: a tomato tourmented enough without blue. 5927AB: a tomato with brown skin and with brown flesh looking like Purple Haze without blue. 5641AB: a red and blue tomato with red flesh 194 trre 3108GW.jpg Furthermore 4843AB, daughter of 3108GW in given My 5508AB 5014LQ and 5009BR: a green tomato ribbed 5008BR: a green tomato not ribbed 5006BR: an orange and blue yellow looking like tomato in 3108GW her grandmother. 5011LQ a brunette with red flesh. 195 trre 4843AB.jpg If all these obtained varieties are very different, it is for three reasons: A) There are many of the various characteristics between the blue purple Haze and the " pineapple " thus many possibilities of dominant or recessive genes. B) In every generation of the pollen of another blue or not blue variety can bring new genes which become thus dominant at the certain moment in the successive generations. C) The genes of green zebra were maybe transmitted at the certain moment. DEMONSTRATES ONE MORE TIME THAT IT IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE FLOWERS OF CROSSED BLUE VARIETIES OF WHICH WE SHALL TAKE GRANULATED ON THE PRODUCED TOMATOES. IT IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT FLOWERS IF IT HAS VARIETIES ALLOGAMES IN NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS THUS NECESSARY TO WORK WITH BIG PRECAUTIONS IF WE MIX NOT BLUE AND BLUE VARIETIES WITH BLUE VARIETIES AND VARIETIES ALLOGAMES AS THE PURPLE HAZE AND ALL THE CROSSINGS WITH THE PURPLE HAZE. THUS THE BLUE VARIETIES, THE CROSSED VARIETIES OR NOT WITH THE PURPLE HAZE, THE VARIETY "JOURNEY" AND ALL THE VARIETY ALLOGAMES ARE INVASIVE FOR THE CONFORMITY OF ALL THE TOMATOES. IT IS THUS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE FLOWERS OF WHICH WE RECUPERONS GRANULATE THEM TOMATOES IF VARIETIES OF THIS KIND(GENRE) ARE IN THE ENVIRONEMENT OF OUR BLUE AND NOT BLUE TOMATOES. NO, you should not give up the culture of the blue tomatoes, it is just necessary to take many of cary. 1 °) The blue color brings one more to tomatoes. All other varieties created by other hybriders gave me the same kind of conclusions. I am going to show you now just now some beautiful varieties which are delicious and which are flavourful if they are cultivated in ideal conditions. 2 °) A rainbow of pleasure for the eyes and the mouth. a) A creation of Reinhard Kraft 198 GW F3.jpg b) A creation of Ambiorix 199 sungold.jpg c) 3 creations of Frogsleap Farm after 3 years in my hands 200 BK.jpg 201 ZH.jpg 202 SPK.jpg d ) A creation of Fusion_Power 203 Blue On Black.jpg e) One of my tester "Belzeb" 204 Purple Belzeb.jpg f)A descendant of Reinhard Kraft's seeds 205 GW F6.jpg Only for such photos, it is necessary to learn to protect certain flowers of our varieties of tomatoes. To be continued: The surprises of the various leaves of the plants of tomatoes. |
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Amborix, are the various "Purple Haze" tomatoes you picture all the result of you own filial generation grow-outs? Did you start with the F1 hybrid, and then grow the F2s, F3s, and so on?
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I received the seeds of Purple F4 of two different origins (AM and RN)
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Surprises of the types of leaves of the varieties.
1) Introduction The blue color can perturb the conformity of tomatoes: we have now proofs. It is necessary to protect the flowers which will give tomatoes and seeds for the future sowing. But, we are not certain that some of our seeds do not contain blue gene and all our exchanged or bought seeds contain it maybe also. Our sowed seeds and the obtained tomatoes must be observed and photographed during all their growth. It is necessary to try to locate all the visual indications which show that we have no blue gene. All these visual markers are very important. But it is also necessary to differentiate all the types of leaves of the plants of tomatoes which can be perturbed by the blue genes. 2) Type of leaves already met: A) Regular B) Leaves of potatoes C) Leaves of carrots. These three types can be colored in blue because anthocyanins can be present. You have already had some examples. 3) Other types of possible leaves: A) Burnets I have already had crossing with this variety but, the result gave me always until now leaves of burnets or regular not blue but I have too little case at the moment to say that it is not possible. It is certainly possible to obtain burnets with anthocyanins. 207 Filaris.jpg b) Greyish white 208 Angora cotyl.jpg 209 Angora feuilles.jpg 210 Angora feuilles2.jpg 211 Angora tom.jpg 212 Angora déc.jpg Last edited by Ambiorix; November 30, 2015 at 03:34 AM. |
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3) Woolly
213 Fuzzy Wuzzy cotyl.jpg 214 Fuzzy Wuzzy jeun pl.jpg 215 Fuzzy Wuzzy fleur.jpg 216 Fuzzy Wuzzy non mur.jpg 217 Fuzzy Wuzzy mur.jpg 218 Fuzzy Wuzzy mur2.jpg 219 Fuzzy Wuzzy dec.jpg 4) Woolly and white 220 Woolly Blue Jay jeun pl.jpg 221 Woolly Blue Jay jeun pl dessous.jpg 222 Woolly Blue Jay feuille.jpg 223 Woolly Blue Jay tom.jpg http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Woolly_Blue_Jay Gave the yellow tomatoes while all other "sellers" have the same tomatoes as mine. An effect of the blue danger!!! |
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