Brandywine Pink - Sudduth Strain

[Ricky Shaw]

The tomato tapestry is rich, wonder if it's like this with beets.

[AKmark]

I did a side by side of BW Sudduth's Glick's, and Cowlick's, and every other BW offshoot I could find, Sudduth's won that year. I would say for me that Sudduth's is the most consistent, while Cowlick's seems to yield the best, has slightly smoother fruit, and it usually tastes awesome too.

[Hudson_WY]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

No way to know if it really was the Quisenberry/Sudduth one from the get go.

Especially since opinions are divided between Sudduth and Cowlick and have been ever since Mike started sending seeds everywhere.

What you have is Mike's opinion about it but as I said above,opinions have been split for well over a decade now.

Carolyn

Thanks Carolyn - If I do trial Cowlicks - Is there a seed source you would recommend that would get me the seed most likely to come from Mike? If Cowlicks is Quisenberry/Sudduth from the get go - I guess I could grow both and save seeds from the one I like the best. This does get very confusing!

[kath]

Originally Posted by Ricky Shaw

The tomato tapestry is rich, wonder if it's like this with beets.

I think it is...and with lettuce, and melons, and peppers, and...

[Hudson_WY]

Originally Posted by AKmark

I did a side by side of BW Sudduth's Glick's, and Cowlick's, and every other BW offshoot I could find, Sudduth's won that year. I would say for me that Sudduth's is the most consistent, while Cowlick's seems to yield the best, has slightly smoother fruit, and it usually tastes awesome too.

AKmark - perfect! Can you please post photos or a link to photos that show the comparison of the plants and fruit? That would be awesome!
Thanks!

[Hudson_WY]

Originally Posted by Ricky Shaw

Cowlick's in Smoot, Wyoming, those seedlings would sell themselves at market.

Rick - haha - the cheese factory closed here a few years ago - not so much about cows anymore. There are a lot of Ranchers here now though that have switched from dairy cows to beef. Smoot, Wyoming is a wonderful place to be - as you can see from our view out our dining room window. You would have a difficult time finding seedlings of any kind in this beautiful very small community - just the way we like it!!!

[Ricky Shaw]

It's beautiful! I love Wyoming, have not been where your at though, the terrain reminds me of Rock Springs and the Flaming Gorge area.

You grow beautiful tomatoes, I've enjoyed your threads and look forward to more. Thanks for taking the time.

[Hudson_WY]

Thanks Rick,
We are only 90 miles south of Yellowstone National Park. This area looks nothing like Rock Springs or Flaming Gorge or the rest of Wyoming. Our mountains are an extension of Yellowstone Park and Jackson Hole. We have plenty of water, lakes, streams, big game hunting, fishing and some of the best snowmobiling in the world.

Makes it tough to grow tomatoes though! It can't be done without protection in this cold climate. A GH makes it all possible

[PhilaGardener]

Amazing view - it is clear you enjoy it!

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Hudson_WY

Thanks Carolyn - If I do trial Cowlicks - Is there a seed source you would recommend that would get me the seed most likely to come from Mike? If Cowlicks is Quisenberry/Sudduth from the get go - I guess I could grow both and save seeds from the one I like the best. This does get very confusing!

I don't think Mike ever sent seeds for trial to any seed vendors.

Option one

Go to the WANTED seed subforum and ask if anyone has seeds for it that they got from Mike

Option Two

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...b=General_Info

Tania is sold out for 2016 so go to Delectation of Tomatoes in the Seed and plant Forum here for it.Dale is rock solid on reliability.

Carolyn

[gssgarden]

Hudson!! That is beautiful!! Can I come there?? LOL


Greg

[JaxRmrJmr]

Originally Posted by Hudson_WY

Rick - haha - the cheese factory closed here a few years ago - not so much about cows anymore. There are a lot of Ranchers here now though that have switched from dairy cows to beef. Smoot, Wyoming is a wonderful place to be - as you can see from our view out our dining room window. You would have a difficult time finding seedlings of any kind in this beautiful very small community - just the way we like it!!!

That is beautiful.

[Hudson_WY]

Thanks Greg & JaxRmrJmr - you are welcome anytime!

Thanks for you help Carolyn!

[b54red]

I have been comparing the two for several years after getting my Cowlick's seed from Camo and still don't know which is better. One year one will do better or have more or larger fruit than the other but the taste is usually so close that they cold be the same. The biggest difference to me is that the larger Sudduth's fruit tend to split slightly on the bottom far more than the Cowlick's. This year having four of each in one bed should give me a really good chance to see if there is any significant difference other than the slight one I have observed so far. I have noticed that Cowlicks sometimes produces more fruits over the season but not always and that Sudduth's usually has the very largest but also not always. So far in my book they are both great tomatoes that are far more consistent producers than I was led to believe.

I think a few tricks that I have learned are responsible for the good production I have been getting from both varieties the last few years. I have been using a very heavy dense mulch which keeps the soil moisture even and cooler which is important in the hot climate. I feed them weekly if possible with Texas Tomato Food and use an electric toothbrush to stimulate pollination. I can't be sure that these things have made the difference but with the addition of each of these steps I have seen production increase noticeably.

Bill

[Hudson_WY]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

I think it's good to remember that Camo (Mike) bought his plant at Cowlick's Nursery which is why he called it Cowlick's Brandywine.

No way to know if it really was the Quisenberry/Sudduth one from the get go.

Especially since opinions are divided between Sudduth and Cowlick and have been ever since Mike started sending seeds everywhere.

Carolyn

Thanks Bill,
It appears your experience confirms Carolyn's thoughts that it is very possible Brandywine Cowlick and Brandywine Quisenberry/Sudduth may be of the same origin - just given different names?

I agree with your tricks and have been using similar techniques on my plants with success. Hope you will give us reports of comparing the four cowlicks and four Sudduths planted in the same bed this year!