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Old April 15, 2016   #31
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Yes they are Cherokee Purple, but I think next year I'll be replacing them with Black Brandywine, which are less productive, but sweeter to me.

Where did you get your Black Brandywine seed? That variety was awful for me, but it doesn't sound like we had the same thing.
I got them from Baker Creek. But for now I mainly only buy tomato seeds from here, since his seeds are top quality and the variety selection is more about taste than look. I think I've fallen for the "appearance trap", none of the cross pollinated variety I bought for the looks did too well this season or produced anything, waste of space! (They are variety featured at Baker Creek, maybe it's better if they make a distinction between stable heirloom and ones recently developed from cross pollinating.)

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Old April 15, 2016   #32
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That's funny. I'm a member of Curtis' Facebook group. I haven't ordered from him yet, though.
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Old April 17, 2016   #33
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I traded 23 kale seedlings for this. It was a good deal, I bought Bonnie Plants rosemary three times and they all died after planting. This one is supposed to smell stronger than regular kind, it seems so.
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I traded 23 kale seedlings for this. It was a good deal, I bought Bonnie Plants rosemary three times and they all died after planting. This one is supposed to smell stronger than regular kind, it seems so.
Max, you can place your rosemary right in the ground, it doesnt seem to be affected by nematodes. Mine is 8 years old and I cant kill it! I love it because I don't do anything to it but water if I remember. It likes sun better than shade.
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Old April 17, 2016   #35
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That rosemary is in the wrong type soil it needs to be sand and gravel with a little black dirt mixed in.
And no fertilizer.
Not yours Marsha the other one.

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I was wondering.
Worth you pretty much just described mine's growing conditions.
Neglect- it seems to love it. Do you do anything to yours Worth?
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I was wondering.
Worth you pretty much just described mine's growing conditions.
Neglect- it seems to love it. Do you do anything to yours Worth?
Sometimes I water it if it is really hot and dry other than that nothing.
Tuscan Blue is the best for wet climates and poorly drained soil.
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Tuscan Blue is the best for wet climates and poorly drained soil.
Worth, you have no idea how happy you've made me.

I bought three 4" pots of a lovely, blue-grey rosemary one year that I planted early summer and grew like wildfire. The more rain, the better. I'd have to hack them back because they were taller than me and taking over the flower bed they were in. Eventually I dug them out so I wouldn't have to prune so much. Worst solution to a happy problem ever - they were the best rosemary I ever grew and I've been looking for more ever since.

The soil here drains very well, but those things took rain like a champ. And now I know what to look for.
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Worth, you have no idea how happy you've made me.

I bought three 4" pots of a lovely, blue-grey rosemary one year that I planted early summer and grew like wildfire. The more rain, the better. I'd have to hack them back because they were taller than me and taking over the flower bed they were in. Eventually I dug them out so I wouldn't have to prune so much. Worst solution to a happy problem ever - they were the best rosemary I ever grew and I've been looking for more ever since.

The soil here drains very well, but those things took rain like a champ. And now I know what to look for.
I cant count how many types I have tried to grow here in this red clay soil.
I was buying it by the flat full.
If your soil drains well give Gorizia a try.

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I cant count how many types I have tried to grow here in this red clay soil.
I was buying it by the flat full.
If your soil drains well give Gorizia a try.

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They did a test on various soil drainages, clay was worst, sand and limestone was fastest, guess what pretty much all of Florida soil is?
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They did a test on various soil drainages, clay was worst, sand and limestone was fastest, guess what pretty much all of Florida soil is?
Well sand does drain but you guys have a high water table.
Another thing to take into account is sand will keep water from evaporating from the soil.
My soil isn't exactly potters clay more of a clay loam.
I cant even describe my soil as it is so different from one spot to the next.
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Well sand does drain but you guys have a high water table.
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Getting higher all the time. Not to mention well before flooding, we will get salt water intrusion into the fresh water supply.
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Thank for advice, I put the rosemary in the ground.

Wow! This 'Delicious' is actually sweet tasting. The fruits were developing bottom end rot, so I watered it once with diluted 4-18-38 and calcium nitrate which saved them. I rarely ever use synthetic fertilizer outside of hydroponic, I wonder if it was a contributing factor. I was growing them for the size, I didn't expect it to taste that good. The seeds are Phil Hunt's strain apparently.

I bought 20lbs bulk of the 4-18-38 fertilizers specifically for growing tomatoes hydroponically, but I got tired of the cleaning and maintenance of hydroponic, so I don't know what to do with them right now. I thought about giving away my hydroponic stuff, but on second thoughts I don't want to get in trouble with law since hydroponic tends to be associated with that stuff. In retrospect it was a waste of money buying all that stuff.
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Old April 21, 2016   #44
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Max, your garden is absolutely beautiful! I love the before and after landscaping picture. Your doing a great job with your lovely tomatoes and the rest of the garden.

How tall is that trellis that you have the tomatoes growing on?

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Old April 21, 2016   #45
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It's about 7ft tall made of 1/2" conduit. Sometimes I link two short ones together with a coupler. I mount them on a 4ft rebar. This is not the sturdiest, but it's cheap and I have a fence to break the wind, so far no problem yet.
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