2017 tentative grow list - Page 3

JosephineRose · November 26, 2016

I've gone back and forth on my tentative list. I need more dirt!

I've got a combination of earthboxes and two 4x4 raised beds available this year. I've got seeds for many more heirlooms than I have space for, and I am having trouble finding the sweet spot between trying new varieties and replanting favorites I know will produce. We also tend to have issues with lack of heat until September and powdery mildew, though I have had great success with some hybrids like Granadero. So now I am having the same dilemma wrt hybrids vs heirloom.

I was going to grow Jaune Flamme because it has done so well for me in the past. I tried Isis Candy last year in a failed attempt to branch out, and was bitterly disappointed. I am considering SunGold this year because everyone raves about it. I also want to try Big Beef for the same reason.

Decisions, decisions! Perhaps I should refine down to a pick from list and post it to get suggestions?

BigVanVader · November 26, 2016

You should 100% grow Sungold. I forgot that one on my list actually. It is a great producer and the flavor is one of the best you will find. Big Beef is reliable and good for a hybrid red. I have had trouble myself narrowing it down but I am trying to do 50% Reliable hybrids, 25% reliable heirlooms, 25% new varieties. Of course that is a base and I typically change it at the last minute. I also grow to sell, if I didn't I'd flip the hybrids/heirlooms percentage.

Dark Rumor · November 26, 2016

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Originally Posted by JosephineRose

I've gone back and forth on my tentative list. I need more dirt!

I've got a combination of earthboxes and two 4x4 raised beds available this year. I've got seeds for many more heirlooms than I have space for, and I am having trouble finding the sweet spot between trying new varieties and replanting favorites I know will produce. We also tend to have issues with lack of heat until September and powdery mildew, though I have had great success with some hybrids like Granadero. So now I am having the same dilemma wrt hybrids vs heirloom.

I was going to grow Jaune Flamme because it has done so well for me in the past. I tried Isis Candy last year in a failed attempt to branch out, and was bitterly disappointed. I am considering SunGold this year because everyone raves about it. I also want to try Big Beef for the same reason.

Decisions, decisions! Perhaps I should refine down to a pick from list and post it to get suggestions?

I am considering building another raised bed as I want to try more variety's. Course after fighting leaf disease last year I wonder if I should cut back on the number of plants and focus on maintenance instead of more plants. How many plants do you plan to grow with your current setup.

JosephineRose · November 27, 2016

OK, need some advice from those who are in the know and have grown them:

Mennonite Orange or Brandywine Platfoot?
Dwarf Sweet Sue or Loxton Lad?

Jimbotomateo · November 27, 2016

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Originally Posted by JosephineRose

OK, need some advice from those who are in the know and have grown them:

Mennonite Orange or Brandywine Platfoot?
Dwarf Sweet Sue or Loxton Lad?

I tried the striped German this year .its very sweet but really good! Was looking at the platfoot for this year . Maybe someone who's grown these can chime in . Good luck luck Josephine Rose.

JosephineRose · November 27, 2016

Sweet Scarlet Dwarf or Rosella Crimson?

These are the questions that try my soul!

MarianneW · November 27, 2016

Started my seeds today, multiples of most:
--prue
--costuluto friorino
--allerbest
--black & brown boar
Already planted out: black krim and my own volunteer a few generations in, it has impressive heat tolerance/hardiness and tastes amazing roasted

Peppers:
--Bahamian goat
--aji jobito
--dulce de espana
--baklouti
Peppers are perennial for me, I've got 11 around the yard right now, still producing. Favorite is currently shattah, a Palestinian chile, with an impressive heat tolerance.

KarenO · November 27, 2016

Moving during the summer really limited my growing in 2016 but for 2017 I will be growing out the True North series now at F5, the Karmas will be at f4 after Marsha's current season and Gerd from Belgium generously sent me seed for a number of Belgian tomatoes, -all new to me -that I am dying to grow out in tribute to my own Belgian heritage
kiekenvilla -1995
Hertog Jan -2009
Potager de Vilvoorde - 1900
Belgium giant
Gloire de Malines -1920
Tommelet
Rouge du gaud -1920
Triumphe de Liege- 1940
Clementine blue - 2012 new
Big Arrow 1980

Looking forward to trying these and saving seed. Perhaps next year's mmm swap will get a Bunch of Belgium bonuses if all goes well.
KarenO

Labradors2 · November 27, 2016

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Originally Posted by JosephineRose

Sweet Scarlet Dwarf or Rosella Crimson?

These are the questions that try my soul!

I grew both varieties two years ago. All the Dwarfs tasted good, but I thought that Dwarf Rosella Purple was more tasty than Dwarf Rosella Crimson. If you like tomatoes with a ZING, you will love Sweet Scarlett Dwarf.

Linda

Fred Hempel · November 28, 2016

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Originally Posted by KarenO

Moving during the summer really limited my growing in 2016 but for 2017 I will be growing out the True North series now at F5, the Karmas will be at f4 after Marsha's current season and Gerd from Belgium generously sent me seed for a number of Belgian tomatoes, -all new to me -that I am dying to grow out in tribute to my own Belgian heritage
kiekenvilla -1995
Hertog Jan -2009
Potager de Vilvoorde - 1900
Belgium giant
Gloire de Malines -1920
Tommelet
Rouge du gaud -1920
Triumphe de Liege- 1940
Clementine blue - 2012 new
Big Arrow 1980

Looking forward to trying these and saving seed. Perhaps next year's mmm swap will get a Bunch of Belgium bonuses if all goes well.
KarenO

I am curious about the "Hertog Jan" (Duke John) tomato. Hertog Jan is a 3-star Michelin restaurant in Bruges, with their own farm/garden.

Can you tell me if this tomato was selected in their gardens and/or if it was developed for the restaurant?

MuddyToes · November 28, 2016

Tentative list:
Amish Paste - a must have every year, so far the best tasting tomato I've ever grown.
Russian 117
Príncipe Borghese
Esterina
Jaune Flamme

I want to try another sweet cherry/grape type and I'm torn between Sunsugar, which I grew last year with success, or trying one of the new high brix series from J&L, or Medovaya Kaplya.

What do you suggest?
Are the Esterina and Sunsugar so similar that I should choose one or the other?

tash11 · November 28, 2016

I am trying really hard to wait until my trades come in before I settle on a list.

I think I might try Ambrosia Red for my MIL. I always start her a red cherry. She thought Hundreds and Thousands was too small though.

And my dad likes a larger slicer/beefsteak. Last year he said he had trouble telling when GGWT was ripe so I might do just red/pink this year. Maybe Van Wert Ohio. Probably one of the Brandywines too....

My 'avid indoorswoman' friend will be given a red slicer of some kind. Will need to be a dwarf as it will be in a pot on her deck.

My daughter wants Green Zebra, and Pineapple. She also wants a superhot. I think peppers will go in pots this year so I can bring them in easier and try to overwinter them.

I have another friend I will ask if she wants me to start any for her. She normally just gets whatever the big box store has, but I think she would appreciate some other options.

**carolyn137** · November 28, 2016

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Originally Posted by JosephineRose

OK, need some advice from those who are in the know and have grown them:

Mennonite Orange or Brandywine Platfoot?
Dwarf Sweet Sue or Loxton Lad?

That would be Yellow Brandywine Platfoot, which was sent to me by Garry Platfoot.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/B...b=General_Info

It is NOT a version of the red Brandywine as someone said.Rather,it's a smoother more high yielding version of the original Yellow Brandywine.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Brandywine,_Yellow

Carolyn

Cole_Robbie · November 28, 2016

I'm going to have to give the Platfoot another try sometime. I had one plant two summers ago that didn't make any tomatoes; maybe it was just a bad year.

Green Doctor's Frosted is the sweetest cherry I have tried. Ambrosia Red is very sweet, too. Esmeralda Golosina, a saladette, also has intense sweetness. My plant went down from gray mold this year, though.

MuddyToes · November 28, 2016

Thanks for the cherry suggestions, CR. Now I have even more choices.

November 27, 2016	#38
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	Moving during the summer really limited my growing in 2016 but for 2017 I will be growing out the True North series now at F5, the Karmas will be at f4 after Marsha's current season and Gerd from Belgium generously sent me seed for a number of Belgian tomatoes, -all new to me -that I am dying to grow out in tribute to my own Belgian heritage kiekenvilla -1995 Hertog Jan -2009 Potager de Vilvoorde - 1900 Belgium giant Gloire de Malines -1920 Tommelet Rouge du gaud -1920 Triumphe de Liege- 1940 Clementine blue - 2012 new Big Arrow 1980 Looking forward to trying these and saving seed. Perhaps next year's mmm swap will get a Bunch of Belgium bonuses if all goes well. KarenO Last edited by KarenO; November 27, 2016 at 08:08 PM.

November 26, 2016	#31
JosephineRose Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: California Posts: 383	I've gone back and forth on my tentative list. I need more dirt! I've got a combination of earthboxes and two 4x4 raised beds available this year. I've got seeds for many more heirlooms than I have space for, and I am having trouble finding the sweet spot between trying new varieties and replanting favorites I know will produce. We also tend to have issues with lack of heat until September and powdery mildew, though I have had great success with some hybrids like Granadero. So now I am having the same dilemma wrt hybrids vs heirloom. I was going to grow Jaune Flamme because it has done so well for me in the past. I tried Isis Candy last year in a failed attempt to branch out, and was bitterly disappointed. I am considering SunGold this year because everyone raves about it. I also want to try Big Beef for the same reason. Decisions, decisions! Perhaps I should refine down to a pick from list and post it to get suggestions?

November 26, 2016	#32
BigVanVader Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 3,099	You should 100% grow Sungold. I forgot that one on my list actually. It is a great producer and the flavor is one of the best you will find. Big Beef is reliable and good for a hybrid red. I have had trouble myself narrowing it down but I am trying to do 50% Reliable hybrids, 25% reliable heirlooms, 25% new varieties. Of course that is a base and I typically change it at the last minute. I also grow to sell, if I didn't I'd flip the hybrids/heirlooms percentage.

November 27, 2016	#37
MarianneW Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2016 Location: Arizona Posts: 153	Started my seeds today, multiples of most: --prue --costuluto friorino --allerbest --black & brown boar Already planted out: black krim and my own volunteer a few generations in, it has impressive heat tolerance/hardiness and tastes amazing roasted Peppers: --Bahamian goat --aji jobito --dulce de espana --baklouti Peppers are perennial for me, I've got 11 around the yard right now, still producing. Favorite is currently shattah, a Palestinian chile, with an impressive heat tolerance.

November 28, 2016	#41
MuddyToes Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Delaware Posts: 234	Tentative list: Amish Paste - a must have every year, so far the best tasting tomato I've ever grown. Russian 117 Príncipe Borghese Esterina Jaune Flamme I want to try another sweet cherry/grape type and I'm torn between Sunsugar, which I grew last year with success, or trying one of the new high brix series from J&L, or Medovaya Kaplya. What do you suggest? Are the Esterina and Sunsugar so similar that I should choose one or the other?

November 28, 2016	#42
tash11 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 156	I am trying really hard to wait until my trades come in before I settle on a list. I think I might try Ambrosia Red for my MIL. I always start her a red cherry. She thought Hundreds and Thousands was too small though. And my dad likes a larger slicer/beefsteak. Last year he said he had trouble telling when GGWT was ripe so I might do just red/pink this year. Maybe Van Wert Ohio. Probably one of the Brandywines too.... My 'avid indoorswoman' friend will be given a red slicer of some kind. Will need to be a dwarf as it will be in a pot on her deck. My daughter wants Green Zebra, and Pineapple. She also wants a superhot. I think peppers will go in pots this year so I can bring them in easier and try to overwinter them. I have another friend I will ask if she wants me to start any for her. She normally just gets whatever the big box store has, but I think she would appreciate some other options.

November 28, 2016	#44
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	I'm going to have to give the Platfoot another try sometime. I had one plant two summers ago that didn't make any tomatoes; maybe it was just a bad year. Green Doctor's Frosted is the sweetest cherry I have tried. Ambrosia Red is very sweet, too. Esmeralda Golosina, a saladette, also has intense sweetness. My plant went down from gray mold this year, though.