Tetanus Shot and What Else?

[brownrexx]

Don't forget the flu shot. Big Pharma wants you to have that every year, even if it is only 50% effective .

Linda




Interestingly I just read in the newspaper today that 134 people died in my state from the flu this year so I guess that it's good that at least some people were protected. The flu is not just a bad cold. It actually kills people especially the elderly. A flu shot may not keep a person from getting it but it may lessen the symptoms to the point that they don't die and I think that would be a good thing especially if it was a member of my family.

[Labradors2]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-are...e-shot/5485757


"In the video above, he explains that the flu shot causes★Guillain-Barré Syndrome, and that the flu shot is not very effective in preventing the flu. He also explains that the CDC does not follow the law for vaccines in requiring long-term safety testing for the influenza vaccine like★they do with other vaccines, as it is impossible to test a vaccine that changes every year. So the flu vaccine is basically an experimental vaccine that they want to give out to 300 million people every year. There are also no studies showing the safety of giving the flu vaccine to the same person every single year. However, Dr. Geier points out that the CDC is in the business of distributing flu vaccines, because they represent 300 million doses per year, whereas all the childhood vaccines together only number 20 million.

Dr. Geier goes on to explain that flu is “the wrong thing to vaccinate against” because you have to keep re-vaccinating against it every year, unlike childhood infectious diseases, such as smallpox, that are only vaccinated for once. Dr. Geier points out how ridiculous it is spend billions of dollars on a vaccine that might, at its best, save about 50 lives a year, when there are far more serious problems causing death that are more worthy of that kind of expenditure."

[Father'sDaughter]

My husband had the flu once. It progressed into a massive pulminary infection which had him down and out for over five weeks. And he was young and relatively healthy at the time. Again, we prefer not to take our chances with preventable diseases and we get our shots when we're due.

As for the information from Dr. Grier, I personally don't think I'd put much faith in what he has to say, but we all need to make our choices, and I'm not going to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Geier

[frankcar1965]

Dr Grier and global research have an online store they want you to take a look at...

[imp]

Yes, in some ways the flu shot is a gamble- the flu shot is made up of the most likely 3 to 5 types the docs think will be hitting that year. Because virus can mutate so very fast ( and are fascinating to study) there are flu shots every year.

About 10 years back now, Rob even got sick from the flu for a few days ( and with Crone's that means it was a very tough strain) and it laid out most of this entire county, no kidding.

I finally gave in, after several days that I pretty much do not recall clearly, and let Rob drag me to the ER, where we found out the flu had transitioned or allowed me to get pneumonia so bad one lung was full and the other was 3/4 full. There were literally no beds from here to Dallas. I spent 2 days in the ER ( wouldn't let me go home) then in a room for 10 or 12 days, It was a blur to me.

Scared Rob. Put a scare in me, too, after I was well enough to know how sick I was; took almost 4 months after that before I was "normal". And I was in pretty good shape before all that.

So, that IS anecdotal, but it made me aware of how bad flu can be and how it can leave you weakened for way to much else to step in and kill you.

YMMV, but I get the flu shot now, avoid crowded areas during flu season and watch my diet.

Edit:

Vaccines are not the end all be all, but preventing disease is better than getting it.

[Worth1]

I got my flue shot for free this year.
Worth

[brownrexx]

Originally Posted by Labradors2

http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-are...e-shot/5485757


"In the video above, he explains that the flu shot causes★Guillain-Barré Syndrome, and that the flu shot is not very effective in preventing the flu. He also explains that the CDC does not follow the law for vaccines in requiring long-term safety testing for the influenza vaccine like★they do with other vaccines, as it is impossible to test a vaccine that changes every year. So the flu vaccine is basically an experimental vaccine that they want to give out to 300 million people every year. There are also no studies showing the safety of giving the flu vaccine to the same person every single year. However, Dr. Geier points out that the CDC is in the business of distributing flu vaccines, because they represent 300 million doses per year, whereas all the childhood vaccines together only number 20 million.

Dr. Geier goes on to explain that flu is “the wrong thing to vaccinate against” because you have to keep re-vaccinating against it every year, unlike childhood infectious diseases, such as smallpox, that are only vaccinated for once. Dr. Geier points out how ridiculous it is spend billions of dollars on a vaccine that might, at its best, save about 50 lives a year, when there are far more serious problems causing death that are more worthy of that kind of expenditure."

I am afraid that you have been the victim of believing some clever conspiracy nuts on fringe websites who are out for personal gain. Please read some reliable scientific references for comparison. ALL scientists are not dishonest. Make some comparisons between several independent websites.

For example the connection between Autism and vaccines has been totally discredited and even the very reliable Autism organization Autism Speaks agrees yet some of these fringe websites still tell you that vaccines still cause Autism.

Don't believe everything that you read.

[Jimbotomateo]

Got one every year til this year. Dr gave me shot to prevent pneumonia. I think. Lol. He said h lost and older patient last year and he thought it could have been prevented if the guy had received this shot. Next year I'll probably get both shots. Jimbo

[brownrexx]

Originally Posted by Jimbotomateo

Got one every year til this year. Dr gave me shot to prevent pneumonia. I think. Lol. He said h lost and older patient last year and he thought it could have been prevented if the guy had received this shot. Next year I'll probably get both shots. Jimbo

Pneumonia shots are good for 10 years so you won't need another one next year.

[gorbelly]

Originally Posted by Labradors2

Don't forget the flu shot. Big Pharma wants you to have that every year, even if it is only 50% effective .

It's probably higher than 50%, but doctors are quite honest about the fact that the flu is one of those viruses that mutates rapidly and has many different strains, so predicting which strains will be in circulation in a given year is down to an educated guess. That doesn't mean the vaccine doesn't work. It's highly effective--IF the manufacturers were correct in guessing which strains will be active and novel strains do not occur.

It takes time to manufacture the vaccine, so they have to guess in advance.

But if you can reduce your chances of being miserable with the flu, lessen your risk to babies, the elderly, and the immunocompromised, and you don't have any kind of allergy to the vaccine components and the cost to you is free or cheap... why the heck wouldn't you get it?

Originally Posted by Labradors2

Being involved in dogs (and I do know that dogs are not humans), I have been made very aware that vaccinations and medications are not as benign as some people might think.

I am forced (by law) to have my dogs vaccinated for rabies every three years (even though it is known that the vaccine lasts for 7 years or longer). Unfortunately, one of my dogs is very allergic to that and I dread having to do it.

I had a series of rabies shots many years ago (after rescuing a skunk from a glass necklace and getting bitten as a result). Shortly after that, my thyroid destroyed itself.

Rabies is one of the vaccines that is known to have higher risks. It's also very expensive. So it's not given unless the risk of rabies exposure is real. Nobody ever recommends that everyone get a rabies vaccine.

It's true that three-year pet vaccines for rabies had adjuvants that cause sarcomas in certain vulnerable animals. The one-year vaccine is free of those adjuvants and is safe wrt vaccine induced sarcomas. There may be neurological side effects for some animals, as, once again, rabies is a higher-risk vaccine. It may be overkill to vaccinate all cats and dogs against it, but dogs in particular are very prone to it and do tend to get off leash, etc. They also do tend to bite people. And given how expensive rabies shots are for people and the fact that they're higher risk, I can see why it's considered to be a better calculation to require vaccination of the animal species that lives closest to the most humans and also does most of the biting of humans.

One disease you absolutely don't want to anyone to get is rabies. It will 100% kill you in a truly cruel, horrible way unless you're young and get put into a medically induced coma early enough... and even then, IF you live, you'll almost certainly have lasting, severe, disabilities. So if there's a real chance of exposure to rabies, you definitely want to be vaccinated.

Lumping more risky vaccines like rabies or anthrax, etc. in with the routine vaccines that are basically the most rigorously tested and studied medical interventions ever to criticize the entire practice of vaccination is very logically flawed and not particularly useful.

Originally Posted by Labradors2

I had all the childhood diseases that were going (we didn't have shots for them all back then). I also had all the shots that were deemed necessary when I was at school.

I had the measles as a teen. It was misery. Even if it didn't do any lasting damage (which I'm not actually sure is the case, as I've had some neurological idiosyncrasies since then), why the heck would someone want to go through it or be the reason why anyone else has to go through it?

Originally Posted by Labradors2

I can see the reasoning for wanting to keep the "herd" immunized. It protects the weak and the young. Since I am neither, I simply prefer not to run with the herd in so many ways...

Unless I'm locked in a sealed environment and NEVER go out, there is a chance I could be a risk to someone. So if there are safe, well-tested vaccines I can get that can reduce risk to immunocompromised people, babies, and the frail elderly who do not have a strong enough immune response to develop immunity through vaccination, I will do it.

Something like tetanus is only a risk to myself. I sure as heck am going to get my boosters regularly, but if someone chooses not to for reasons I can't understand, they shouldn't be forced to get it, as herd immunity isn't an issue with tetanus. I just hope they don't end up with that truly horrible illness. And, as it happens, people aren't forced to get tetanus shots unless it's for qualification for certain jobs, insurance, etc.

[dustdevil]

If you don't scream after getting a tetanus shot with that 4" needle, maybe the doc will let you grab something out of the candy bucket

[gorbelly]

Originally Posted by dustdevil

If you don't scream after getting a tetanus shot with that 4" needle, maybe the doc will let you grab something out of the candy bucket

If your doc is giving you any routine vaccination with a 4" needle, I'd double-check their credentials.

[gorbelly]

Originally Posted by Jimbotomateo

Got one every year til this year. Dr gave me shot to prevent pneumonia. I think. Lol. He said h lost and older patient last year and he thought it could have been prevented if the guy had received this shot. Next year I'll probably get both shots. Jimbo

The pneumonia shots (there are 2 different ones) provide lifelong immunity in most people. So once you get one of each (usually given a year apart), you shouldn't need them again. Some people may be advised to get boosters at a certain point, but it's definitely not a yearly thing like flu shots.

[dmforcier]

I had a shot in the butt the other day that I didn't feel going in, except that whatever was in the syringe caused the muscle to spasm so that it felt like I'd been hit with a rubber hammer. Miserable shot, too. Took a long time to heal.

[Father'sDaughter]

Just saw a commercial for another one I need to ask my doctor about at next year's check up, and make sure my husband talks to his doctor about getting... if our insurance will cover it before age 60. The shingles vaccine.

My father in-law had shingles and I remember the agony he went through. The rash on his torso would get so bad he would go about a week where he couldn't bear to put a shirt on. He couldn't even function, just sat there fighting not to put his arms down unless he absolutely had to.

We both had chicken pox during our teen years, so the shingles vaccine is not one to skip.