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Old June 11, 2008   #31
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I did a search before I posted and saw no comments on anyone with ripe PH for 2008.
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Old June 11, 2008   #32
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I'm only growing an F2.

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Purple Haze F2 - Planted out an RL seedling. What I am getting looks and tastes identical to Black Cherry, excellent flavor. Foliage is indistinguishable between the two to my eyes. Very productive -- moreso than Black Cherry. Another difference I am observing is a split/non-uniform truss (almost multiflora (?)), and more fruit per truss. The plant is also about 2 ft taller than BC generally gets for me -- a real monster.
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Old June 11, 2008   #33
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Suze, Thanks for your reply. All 3 of my PH plants look identical. I have 2 of them growing side by side to 2 Black Cherry plants and my foilage also looks the same. But my PH and BC plants are all about the same size, just starting to grow out of the top of 5' tall CRW cages. My PH are also putting on more fruit than the BC, but my PH fruit is 2 to 3 times the size of the BC fruit. I believe my PH plants are also F2's.
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Old June 11, 2008   #34
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tick tick tick tick tick tick tick..
soon, veeery soon...

They seem to be ever so slightly bigger than BC but not as big as my Stupice. Both were described as 2-3 oz. I think.

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Old June 12, 2008   #35
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Is there any chances of some larger fruits in the F3 generation say 6-8 oz. or larger? Is so I might have to beg for some F3 seeds to try and see what I get.
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Old June 12, 2008   #36
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The basic cross for purple haze was a Brandywine X Cherokee Purple segregate that was selected in the F3 for extraordinary flavor. It is potato leaf. This was crossed with Black Cherry to make Purple Haze.

The F2 seedlings should segregate out at:
1 regular leaf
2 regular leaf with recessive potato leaf trait
1 potato leaf

The fruit should segregate
1 large fruit
2 cherry size with recessive for large fruit
1 cherry

Flavor segregation will be much more complex.

If you want a large fruited potato leaf tomato with good flavor, you would have to grow out at least 64 seedlings and plant out only the 16 potato leaf seedlings while discarding the 48 regular leaf. Select from the 16 seedlings for the best flavored 4 to save seed. Then carry those 4 out to at least 5 generations to stabilize the traits. At some point, select the best of the 4 lines for the one to be maintained as a selection.

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This sounds like something I would like to try in the future but need a little more growing space first. Everyone that is growing PH F2 this year let me know if you get a good tasting PL large fruited plant as I would like to beg for some seeds
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Old June 12, 2008   #37
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Go big,

I have limited space, so will never be able to grow out, as Darrel suggests. I have only 4 Purple Haze plants growing (in the two center 'Tainers):



Fortunately, 2 are RL and 2 are PL. It does appear that the RL clusters look more typical of cherry tomatoes, while the ones growing on the PL vines look like they will develop into larger fruit. Too early to draw any firm conclusions, but I am hoping the PL will deliver slicers.



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Keep me posted Ray, I might have to begg for some seeds. My KBX and Ed's are flowering right now and I am hoping they set some fruit we have been a little humid but the temps have been pretty good should know in the next week or so.
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Old June 23, 2008   #40
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I have had a dozen or so ripe PH over the last 2 or 3 days. I said in an earlier post that I thought mine were F2 but I was wrong, they are only F1. The plants are 6' tall and look identical to my Black Cherry plants. These are also the largest plants of any varieties I have. The tomatos are very tasty and look like a large version of BC. They are 2 to 3 times the size of BC. Almost to big to be a cherry. The plants are very healthy and are loaded with fruit. They also contain a lot of seeds so if ayone wants some F2 seeds for next year I should have some.
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Old June 24, 2008   #41
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cypert2,

Who was your seed source? The single F1 plant I have looks a bit like black cherry, but I would say the fruits are 4-6 times larger and I notice SLIGHT ribbing.
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Old June 24, 2008   #42
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Due to our poor weather this year the Purple Haze plants haven't gotten very tall, maybe 36"-42". Kept them in large pots on our sundeck. Just ate my first tomato from these yesterday.

One PL version has fruit that vary from mini beafsteaks to round 3 oz ones. The other PL has fruit that are 2-3 oz, perfectly round, not quite as early maturing. The early maturing version seems to have shape of Brandywine, the coloring of Cherokee Purple, downsized by the Black Cherry to middle ground. Taste is a combination of all three.

Have one that is just about ripe, I will take a pic of before eating! With all the rain we had for Junuary(June), the tomato's did get cracks. Hopefully the rest will ripen properly with warmer, dry weather in July & August.

Should mention the tomato's are a dusky brownish -light red.
Wow, very tasty... Need More!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ps... saved 8 seeds from the first plant so far


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Old June 27, 2008   #43
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First ripe one is on it's way!!
Still will be a few days but I'm happy it's finally turning. Man is this one big plant! Growing as fast and big as BC. Got to put bigger stakes in there as it's approaching 7'. Fruits are little larger than last years BC.
I planted some suckers for two people here at TV with plans on giving them to them at Tomatopalooza but I don't think they'll make it. Already 1.5' tall and growing fast. By the end of July, they'll be 5-6'! Nice healthy looking plant.

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Greg,

Fully agree that PH is quite prolific. Mine are over 8 ft. as of today. Also loaded with fruit:



Have been picking them for a few days now:





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Old June 27, 2008   #45
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WOW that's alot of fruit. Can't wait.
How'd it taste Ray? What would you compare it to?

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