AVOID Pepper Joe's AT ALL COSTS! - Page 31

leecounty · March 6, 2014

I used to buy from them because they had a few varieties I could not find elsewhere. However, over the years their quality has decreased -- especially the peppers. This year I did not even buy from them.

tarpalsfan · February 13, 2017

Last season I bought Orange Peter seeds from P.J's. The first package did not come up. They did send me a second package. Almost all of the seed came up from the second pack, germinating quickly. I did have some nice pepper plants. However, when when the plants started making peppers-they were not all Peter Peppers but also Aji Limon. Nice peppers, but no saving seed. Mixed pepper plants.
Accident's happen. One of my favorite online catalogs sent me the wrong tomato twice. I will still buy from them. There seed prices are great.
However, at $6. bucks a pack. I think it would be better to buy live Peter plants from Jung's. My local County Fair liked the Orange Peters-but I think the red ones would go over just as well!

neoguy · February 13, 2017

I'm not here to defend Pepper Joe nor have I ever spent a penny (pun intended) with his or her company, but it is my understanding that it is under new ownership.

ginger2778 · February 13, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoguy

I'm not here to defend Pepper Joe nor have I ever spent a penny (pun intended) with his or her company, but it is my understanding that it is under new ownership.

No kidding?Details please.

February 13, 2017

Pepper Joe's is fairly well-known among pepper aficionados, but at the same time it's kind of infamous.

Pros: You get lots of free seeds, and the vendor will more than likely replace any crossed or mixed up seeds. They have some cool varieties, I think.

Cons: Many have complained about crossed and/or mxed up seeds. Prices are kind of expensive if you don't factor in the free seeds. So, if you're looking for something specific and only that, it's expensive.

My experience: I ordered from them once (14 July 2015). The Black Jalapenos were black (i.e. probably super dark purple) and looked like jalapenos (when fully ripe they were a dark red); they were productive and pretty awesome-looking; the leaves sometimes had some anthocyanin on them, too; they were thick-walled and though they didn't taste bad, they didn't have the characteristic jalapeno flavor for me; the fully ripe peppers likely had average jalapeno heat, and were a bit on the sweet side for a pepper, flavor-wise. I didn't try the non-fully-ripe peppers, since I wanted to save a very large amount of seeds, or something. I also tried their Yatzy pepper, which was decently productive, but the peppers were quite small (I didn't get that impression from the picture), granted, I had them in a 5-gallon bucket. The Carolina Reaper seed I grew set a few tiny seedless fruits indoors, which didn't look like Carolina Reapers (but like little ribbed pouches), and it grew into a very large plant outdoors, but it didn't get any fruit to prove whether it was true to type or not. The tiny indoor peppers were very hot, especially considering their size. I got some dried Carolina Reapers with my order. Those were pretty fun to have around. They gave me lots of free seed packets. I haven't tried them. I also ordered their Giant Syrian tomato, and though I got a plant, I didn't manage to get any fruit from it as far as I found (perhaps it was too crowded). I grew the plants I mentioned in 2016, although I started the Carolina Reaper in 2015.

Worth1 · February 13, 2017

They or he doesn't like our leader $%$# him.
Nuff said.

Worth

guruofgardens · February 13, 2017

PepperJo (Laura) and her husband purchased the business in the summer of 2015.

Father'sDaughter · February 13, 2017

Looks like Joe's gone and someone named Jo is running the place now.

JohnJones · February 14, 2017

Very apropos that Joe kept "betting his bottom dollar" that T'ville would be gone within a year after getting into it with every prominent member here a few years ago, but it is he and Penny who are "see ya!" from the growing community.

He was a nightmare of a person. Hope the new owners do well with it. Lot of bad will to buy into it would seem.

Spartanburg123 · February 14, 2017

Absolutely! Good riddance! Now I want my 2 hours back!!

kurt · February 14, 2017

That snake is still around somewhere.Cretin has a knack of conjuring up some newfangled enterprise as done in the past.Wonder if the "sale" is of public record.Would love to see those papers.For a couple hundred bucks you can drop a "e" and legally change you name.Maybe he will turn up in D.C. with the re st of them.

clkeiper · February 14, 2017

Kurt... that was my thought, too. Joe to jo is pretty conveniently similar, there are plenty of fly by night business' that rename themselves to keep being a bad egg business.

Sun City Linda · February 14, 2017

Good riddance. We can only hope its true. Pepper Joe harassed many of our members after getting a list of addresses from a seed seller. He came after me too but his midnight calls and threats went to a different Linda who lives in Sun City but that situation was ultimately brought to my attention. I really hope these two do not crawl out from under some new rock. As Kurt said, look for them in DC!

BigVanVader · February 14, 2017

Lol, sounds crazy. If someone like this tries to harass me with phone calls I'd be taking a drive down to their house to show them what it feels like to spit their teeth out.

AlittleSalt · February 14, 2017

I read this thread in my first year of being a member. I couldn't care less who owns Pepper Joes - I will not visit the site.

February 13, 2017	#452
tarpalsfan Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Arkansas Posts: 206	Peter Peppers Last season I bought Orange Peter seeds from P.J's. The first package did not come up. They did send me a second package. Almost all of the seed came up from the second pack, germinating quickly. I did have some nice pepper plants. However, when when the plants started making peppers-they were not all Peter Peppers but also Aji Limon. Nice peppers, but no saving seed. Mixed pepper plants. Accident's happen. One of my favorite online catalogs sent me the wrong tomato twice. I will still buy from them. There seed prices are great. However, at $6. bucks a pack. I think it would be better to buy live Peter plants from Jung's. My local County Fair liked the Orange Peters-but I think the red ones would go over just as well!

February 13, 2017	#455
shule1 Guest Posts: n/a	Pepper Joe's is fairly well-known among pepper aficionados, but at the same time it's kind of infamous. Pros: You get lots of free seeds, and the vendor will more than likely replace any crossed or mixed up seeds. They have some cool varieties, I think. Cons: Many have complained about crossed and/or mxed up seeds. Prices are kind of expensive if you don't factor in the free seeds. So, if you're looking for something specific and only that, it's expensive. My experience: I ordered from them once (14 July 2015). The Black Jalapenos were black (i.e. probably super dark purple) and looked like jalapenos (when fully ripe they were a dark red); they were productive and pretty awesome-looking; the leaves sometimes had some anthocyanin on them, too; they were thick-walled and though they didn't taste bad, they didn't have the characteristic jalapeno flavor for me; the fully ripe peppers likely had average jalapeno heat, and were a bit on the sweet side for a pepper, flavor-wise. I didn't try the non-fully-ripe peppers, since I wanted to save a very large amount of seeds, or something. I also tried their Yatzy pepper, which was decently productive, but the peppers were quite small (I didn't get that impression from the picture), granted, I had them in a 5-gallon bucket. The Carolina Reaper seed I grew set a few tiny seedless fruits indoors, which didn't look like Carolina Reapers (but like little ribbed pouches), and it grew into a very large plant outdoors, but it didn't get any fruit to prove whether it was true to type or not. The tiny indoor peppers were very hot, especially considering their size. I got some dried Carolina Reapers with my order. Those were pretty fun to have around. They gave me lots of free seed packets. I haven't tried them. I also ordered their Giant Syrian tomato, and though I got a plant, I didn't manage to get any fruit from it as far as I found (perhaps it was too crowded). I grew the plants I mentioned in 2016, although I started the Carolina Reaper in 2015. Last edited by shule1; February 13, 2017 at 09:30 PM.

February 14, 2017	#461
kurt Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Homestead,Everglades City Fl. Posts: 2,500	That snake is still around somewhere.Cretin has a knack of conjuring up some newfangled enterprise as done in the past.Wonder if the "sale" is of public record.Would love to see those papers.For a couple hundred bucks you can drop a "e" and legally change you name.Maybe he will turn up in D.C. with the re st of them. __________________ KURT

February 14, 2017	#462
clkeiper Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ohio Posts: 4,350	Kurt... that was my thought, too. Joe to jo is pretty conveniently similar, there are plenty of fly by night business' that rename themselves to keep being a bad egg business. __________________ carolyn k

February 14, 2017	#463
Sun City Linda Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SoCal Inland Posts: 2,705	Good riddance. We can only hope its true. Pepper Joe harassed many of our members after getting a list of addresses from a seed seller. He came after me too but his midnight calls and threats went to a different Linda who lives in Sun City but that situation was ultimately brought to my attention. I really hope these two do not crawl out from under some new rock. As Kurt said, look for them in DC! Last edited by Sun City Linda; February 14, 2017 at 12:18 PM. Reason: typo

March 6, 2014	#451
leecounty Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 4	I used to buy from them because they had a few varieties I could not find elsewhere. However, over the years their quality has decreased -- especially the peppers. This year I did not even buy from them.

February 13, 2017	#453
neoguy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 610	I'm not here to defend Pepper Joe nor have I ever spent a penny (pun intended) with his or her company, but it is my understanding that it is under new ownership.

February 13, 2017	#456
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	They or he doesn't like our leader $%$# him. Nuff said. Worth

February 13, 2017	#457
guruofgardens Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2008 Location: zone 5 Colorado Posts: 942	PepperJo (Laura) and her husband purchased the business in the summer of 2015.

February 13, 2017	#458
Father'sDaughter Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: MA/NH Border Posts: 4,919	Looks like Joe's gone and someone named Jo is running the place now.

February 14, 2017	#459
JohnJones Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Mississippi Posts: 339	Very apropos that Joe kept "betting his bottom dollar" that T'ville would be gone within a year after getting into it with every prominent member here a few years ago, but it is he and Penny who are "see ya!" from the growing community. He was a nightmare of a person. Hope the new owners do well with it. Lot of bad will to buy into it would seem.

February 14, 2017	#460
Spartanburg123 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 1,262	Absolutely! Good riddance! Now I want my 2 hours back!!

February 14, 2017	#464
BigVanVader Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 3,099	Lol, sounds crazy. If someone like this tries to harass me with phone calls I'd be taking a drive down to their house to show them what it feels like to spit their teeth out.

February 14, 2017	#465
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	I read this thread in my first year of being a member. I couldn't care less who owns Pepper Joes - I will not visit the site.