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Old June 17, 2016   #466
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Where can we find the SEMO catalogue?
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http://www.semo.cz/homegardencz/inde...&Rajce-tyckove

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Old June 17, 2016   #467
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Starlight, I can only say what my experience has been on Klyukve v Sakhare: The seeds I got came from an Ukrainian seller, and what I got, was a large-ish bush, with roma type cherries. Not bad, but obviously not the original!
I ordered new seeds from Russia, in the company package (Aelita), so it should be the real deal. Intersting to see what I'll get, hopefully a small windowsill plant. There seems to be much variance (and probably also wrong seeds) about this variety.
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Old June 17, 2016   #468
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Starlight, I can only say what my experience has been on Klyukve v Sakhare: The seeds I got came from an Ukrainian seller, and what I got, was a large-ish bush, with roma type cherries. Not bad, but obviously not the original!
I ordered new seeds from Russia, in the company package (Aelita), so it should be the real deal. Intersting to see what I'll get, hopefully a small windowsill plant. There seems to be much variance (and probably also wrong seeds) about this variety.
Cool! Thanks for letting me know what yours were like. My plants are large. Large in size to me, almost 6 foot at the moment. They were sort of bushy. Full looking plants. I'm not very good with tomato descriptions yet. Not sure what a roma cherry looks like, but these are what I call a grape looking cherry. They taste good and the plant makes a lot of them.

Do you happen to know what the "v" in the middle stands for? I've been having fun growing these new to me types. Love surprises and the MMMM sure does provide nice surprises.

I would grow it again for sure. I was a bit worried wondering how the ones with Russian names might do down here in the heat and humidity of the South, but it has done real well. I don't know if tomatoes are like flowering plants, but I know sometimes saved seeds from plants from North and colder temps may take a year or two to settle in good and perform well. It's like the seed has programed genetics for cold weather in it, something we don't have.

It has taken to the heat and humidity down here real well. I was a bit worried about it and had a light shade cloth over it and it didn't like it. It wanted some full out heat and sun and no disease problems at all. : )
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Old June 17, 2016   #469
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Starlight: I guess 'v' means 'in' or something similar, as the meaning of the variety is 'Cranberries in Sugar'.. (a popular Russian dessert) ..
With roma tomatoes I meant these elongated paste type fruits, a bit larger than grape tomatoes.

Andrey probably can tell you more details as he has grown this, but it seems there are wrong - or possibly mixed, mutated, or whatever - seeds floating around, and that is why there are such variance in results.
It sounds like you had a giant!! Mine was a determinate bush, but much larger than I expected.
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Starlight: I guess 'v' means 'in' or something similar, as the meaning of the variety is 'Cranberries in Sugar'.. (a popular Russian dessert) ..
With roma tomatoes I meant these elongated paste type fruits, a bit larger than grape tomatoes.

Andrey probably can tell you more details as he has grown this, but it seems there are wrong - or possibly mixed, mutated, or whatever - seeds floating around, and that is why there are such variance in results.
It sounds like you had a giant!! Mine was a determinate bush, but much larger than I expected.
I'll save the seeds for the swap for sure of all these ones that a bit different. They may just be the knock out one that somebody will like. The thing besides showing good disease resistance is that the flea beetles which are terrible here didn't touch the plant at all. I did have one tomato hornworm that thought it would have lunch but that was it. It became lunch for the birds.

I don't know how to tell yet good if the plant is a determinate or not unless I read it on the package or a site or here at TV. I usually go by TV threads for everything if I can find it.

Ahhhhh, definitely not any roma shape at all to this one. Thanks for explaining. The plants produced all the same of the plants of it I grew out. So even if it not the right one, there was some stability in the seeds.

What was the final color on yours? Mine seem to be deep orange/red color.
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I need help on how to mark a couple of packages. I have three Blue Ambrosia (pumpkin variant) plants. I know they are experimental still. Two are producing like on the sites pic, round, but the third plant. Oh my! Never seen a tomato that looked like it. It looks like a square pear shape on steroids. The fruits look like small size Bartlett pears and they start out with squarish sides.

I'll put them in different baggies to send in, but wonder what I should write on the outside of the package. Soon as they get fully turned I show you pics of both.

The other question I have is I have three Chocolate Cherry plants. They were all grown at same time, everything the same and they next to each other, but each plant has different size fruits on it from what looks normal to larger. How do I mark those or should I just put all in the same baggy?

I have a question about Klukva v. Sahare. I couldn't find much info on it and the one site I did find it said that the fruit was a tiny currant. Mine are not currants. They nice size small cherry. Are they supposed to be a currant or a cherry.
Blue Ambrosia (square pear variant)...if it isn't too much writing for you.

As for Chocolate Cherry, if there is a consensus description as to a correct size, it's probably best to only send in seed from the one plant that fits the description.

You may want to save seed from all three, and trial all three next year to see what happens.
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Blue Ambrosia (square pear variant)...if it isn't too much writing for you.

As for Chocolate Cherry, if there is a consensus description as to a correct size, it's probably best to only send in seed from the one plant that fits the description.

You may want to save seed from all three, and trial all three next year to see what happens.
Sounds good! Will do that. No problem with the writing at all. I didn't know last year and probably just about drove you blind or crazy or both with all the tiny info I wrote on the slips.
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Old June 18, 2016   #473
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One question about the swap this fall. Do I need to send in 10 packets of each variety or would a few packets of one variety be ok as long as I send 10+ on most?

Also does the seed need to be from this year? Or can I send some that I saved last year as well?


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Couple of things.

First today is a happy day. I got my first ripe Pink Bumblee. I was really worried when I saw the Pink and Purple Bumblebee seeds in my packet. I had gotten seeds for them from many places and had been trying for years to grow them. Even tried in a friend's garden and never had a bit of luck. Always the plants would die. I had gotten them because of the name. I wanted to see what the Bumblees would look like.

I had just about given up on trying to grow them. Tormato sent the seeds, and a person here at Tv said don't give up, so they got planted and they grew and they made bunches of tomatoes. Now if more would hurry up and turn then I could try one to see what it tastes like. I don't taste anything til I have plenty of tomatoes to get seeds from for swap first.

Which brings me to my second happiness of the day. When I started my seedlings, I fell in love with the growth and the foliage of Crovarese. A beautiful plant, not the first bit of problems with it and it has produced such big clusters of ping pong/ golf ball size fruits. I had finally collected enough ripe tomatoes for seed and got to taste my first one. Luscious!!!! : ) So far the best tomato for me that I have tasted. I hope the others ripen soon, I could eat the whole plant it is that good. Plants grew beautifully during bitter cold, rains and they extreme heat and drought. This is one that I would sure grow again.

Now for the question? Gotta love these mystery swaps and seeing surprises. : )

I could be wrong, but when I googled Green Zebra, the couple pics it showed all showed a round tomato. What shape are they supposed to be? I have 4 Green Zebra plants going and none have a round tomato. They I think the term is oblong shape. They look like a Green Zebra in color and with the GZ stripes, but mine look like the way Blush sahpe does only not quite as long. Very pretty looking tomato.
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Old June 20, 2016   #475
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Which brings me to my second happiness of the day. When I started my seedlings, I fell in love with the growth and the foliage of Crovarese. A beautiful plant, not the first bit of problems with it and it has produced such big clusters of ping pong/ golf ball size fruits. I had finally collected enough ripe tomatoes for seed and got to taste my first one. Luscious!!!! : ) So far the best tomato for me that I have tasted. I hope the others ripen soon, I could eat the whole plant it is that good. Plants grew beautifully during bitter cold, rains and they extreme heat and drought. This is one that I would sure grow again.
I am totally taking notes on your Crovarese results, especially since we both grow in the Deep South!

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Now for the question? Gotta love these mystery swaps and seeing surprises. : )

I could be wrong, but when I googled Green Zebra, the couple pics it showed all showed a round tomato. What shape are they supposed to be? I have 4 Green Zebra plants going and none have a round tomato. They I think the term is oblong shape. They look like a Green Zebra in color and with the GZ stripes, but mine look like the way Blush sahpe does only not quite as long. Very pretty looking tomato.
I've grown Green Zebra a few times. It does really well for me. Doesn't mind our hot summers, either. My fruit have always been round, though.
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I could be wrong, but when I googled Green Zebra, the couple pics it showed all showed a round tomato. What shape are they supposed to be? I have 4 Green Zebra plants going and none have a round tomato. They I think the term is oblong shape. They look like a Green Zebra in color and with the GZ stripes, but mine look like the way Blush sahpe does only not quite as long. Very pretty looking tomato.
Sounds more like Green Tiger.
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I am totally taking notes on your Crovarese results, especially since we both grow in the Deep South!



I've grown Green Zebra a few times. It does really well for me. Doesn't mind our hot summers, either. My fruit have always been round, though.
I have plenty of seed if you want some and don't want to wait to see if you get it in the swap. I grew out 6 plants of it since I loved the foliage and growth so much. it is a tall plant, mine are starting to hit the 6' mark and have been happily growing in a 3 gallon pot.

The only two I have had a bit of a problem with down here has been Pravda and Klukva v. Sahare. Didn't take me long to figure out they really like it on the dry side. Had a bit of leaf yellowing when they were about 3' tall. Once I cut back on their watering they been happy and going to town.



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Sounds more like Green Tiger.
Well, now don't I look as red faced as a tomato. Thanks habitat_gardener. You are so right. I have seeds for both Green Zebra and Green Tiger and when I looked at the sowed packets, it is Green Tiger I have growing. Glad you chimed in. Have made new tags for the plants.
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I am totally taking notes on your Crovarese results, especially since we both grow in the Deep South!
Now that my camera working again, thanks to help here. Here's a couple of quick pics of the foliage of Crovarese. I thought I had a pic of one of the trusses full of tomatoes, but guess I goofed and missed it. The red you see in pics is fruit starting to ripen. They look smaller in pic than what they are. Have usually 8 to ten fruits on a truss.

You can see why I think it has the prettiest foliage. No molds, no bugs, and good tasting tomatoes too. Can't beat that. We been at 108F here already and it didn't even try and wilt. I used to just water in the evenings my containers, but since we been in the 90's + I switched over to a drink in the early mornings about 6-7 am and then give just a quickie little refresh drink to everybody about 2-3Pm. Keeps the plants from wilting and cools down the soil in the black pots and they good til next morning.
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One question about the swap this fall. Do I need to send in 10 packets of each variety or would a few packets of one variety be ok as long as I send 10+ on most?

Also does the seed need to be from this year? Or can I send some that I saved last year as well?


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Seed is suggested to be 3 years old, max, unless you're sending in varieties for others wish lists. Then, I'll accept any age. If new seed also comes in for the same varieties, that's what participants will receive. If not, then old seed is better than none at all, for trying to get hard to find varieties.

Coming up short of 10 packs (to enter a category?) is OK as long as it is not abused too often, and as long as it's not in a category with few participants. Otherwise, things can come up short for all participants in that category.
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Got couple more pics. Figure I would put them on here so they don't get lost on my puter and I forget who who or my puter goes down.

First two are fruit of Crovarese
Three and Four are Blue Ambrosia (pumpkin variant). One is normal size and pumpkin color with slight blue streaks on shoulder. The other which hasn't even thought about turning yet is the (square pear) shaped one. It's been trying to fill out a little but still squarey looking in person. It is a little over 3" long and almost as wide. Way more than double the size of the (pumpkin variant) ones.
Five is Black Hole Sun just starting to turn. So far, Black Hole Sun seems to have more of the faint purple on it's shoulder than Blue Ambrosia. Blue Ambrosia is just a little bit bigger in size.
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