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elight · June 12, 2017

My old Chapin brass hose-end sprayer finally gave out (I left it in a storage bin with pool chemicals, and something corroded the dial that you use to select the mixing ratio... whoops).

I hated the spray nozzle on the thing and found it very difficult to get the water to go where I wanted (lots of waste), especially when applying a drench to the soil.

Most of the other sprayers, including the ones in this thread, get bad reviews mostly due to poor construction (usually plastic).

The Hozon thing is interesting but I can't decide if it would be a pain or not. I'm thinking not. Can I just leave it attached between the hose bib and the hose at all times, and when not in use, leave it there with no side effects?

Rockporter · June 12, 2017

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Originally Posted by elight

The Hozon thing is interesting but I can't decide if it would be a pain or not. I'm thinking not. Can I just leave it attached between the hose bib and the hose at all times, and when not in use, leave it there with no side effects?

I was thinking the same thing. Also, from my reading about how to use it I see you have to have a continuous flow of water so it doesn't back up from the pressure and add water to your mix. So, I am thinking about going ahead and keeping my 2 gallon watering container in my hand so I can put the wand in that when I am moving from area to area in the garden. I could then just point it downward to the plant and empty it while I move down the line. I think this might work for me.

As far as leaving it there all the time, I am not so sure that would work unless it has a turn off dial so it doesn't want to suck up from the bucket it's in. Filling a 10 gallon bucket full of water would work for my size garden to just have it sucking up water when I am not using it for fertilizer.

I was also thinking that 2 hoses, one 35' long and one 15' long would work real well too. Installing the Hozon between the two, and setting the bucket nearby the area that needs fertilizer. But again, my garden is small and having a 35' hose would work fine for me when I remove the Hozon and the 15' hose.

The Hozon can only be used with a max hose length of 50' and I think having a shutoff valve installed behind the hozon to stop the water flow into the 15' hose would make it so I could easily turn the water off when I was moving from one area to the next.

Here is the Hozon website

http://hozon.com/how-hozon-works/.

Update:

Hubby just came home and suggested I just get a 15' hose and install the Hozon between it and my 50' hose, then I could remove it and set it up each time I fertilize. Duh, why didn't I think of that? I'd have a shutoff valve connected at the end of the 50' hose before the Hozon. All the shut off control I need to move to the next area and take the bucket with me.

Rockporter · June 12, 2017

Ordered the Hozon off eBay. I'll get both the fertilizers and the Hozon by Saturday delivery so it looks like Sunday I'll be able to test it out.

Worth1 · June 13, 2017

Why not just put a small valve in line with the tube going to the bucket of fertilizer to turn the suction off and on.
A needle valve would even allow more adjustment to control how much fertilizer it was putting out.
At the end of the feed tube put in a small filter to act as a weight and as a filter.
All this thing is, is a small carburetor using the venturi effect sucking water instead of air.
Buy using the valve it would be the same thing as choking a carburetor but water instead of air.
Opening the faucet valve up more would be the same as the gas peddle on a car thus using more fuel.
Very simplified but more or less the same.
Worth
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...h5TrAxJ_MZHyTw

elight · June 13, 2017

The more and more I think about this, the more I think that I should just get the Ortho plastic hose end sprayer for $11 off Amazon and plan to replace it every year when it breaks. For my limited needs (two 4x4 raised beds, two EarthTainers), messing with the Hozon just doesn't seem worth the aggravation.

Worth1 · June 13, 2017

I don't know about the new ones but I have had my old ortho for years.

Father'sDaughter · June 13, 2017

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Originally Posted by elight

The more and more I think about this, the more I think that I should just get the Ortho plastic hose end sprayer for $11 off Amazon and plan to replace it every year when it breaks. For my limited needs (two 4x4 raised beds, two EarthTainers), messing with the Hozon just doesn't seem worth the aggravation.

I managed to get three years out of mine and just bought a new one off Amazon.

Rockporter · June 13, 2017

TTF and Vegetable have been shipped out. They are only a few hours from me so I think I will see these within a couple of days. Yay!

HudsonValley · June 14, 2017

Hmm. First-time TTF user here. Can't figure out if I overdid it (or underdid it). I forgot to mix water into the canister of my new hose-end sprayer before applying, as directed by Urban Farms. I set the dial on the sprayer (Chapin professional all-purpose) to 2, and used about 7 oz. of TTF to water/feed 51 tomatoes, 24 peppers, 12 eggplants, and six mounds of squash and cukes. Can anyone help? Will my plants be hungry or crispy tomorrow?

MissS · June 14, 2017

Was the sprayer set to teaspoons or tablespoons? 2 tablespoons = .5 oz. TTF is supposed to be applied at 1 tablespoon per gallon.

Rockporter · June 14, 2017

Got my shipment today. Boy that delivery is fast!

Rockporter · June 14, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by HudsonValley

Hmm. First-time TTF user here. Can't figure out if I overdid it (or underdid it). I forgot to mix water into the canister of my new hose-end sprayer before applying, as directed by Urban Farms. I set the dial on the sprayer (Chapin professional all-purpose) to 2, and used about 7 oz. of TTF to water/feed 51 tomatoes, 24 peppers, 12 eggplants, and six mounds of squash and cukes. Can anyone help? Will my plants be hungry or crispy tomorrow?

According to this chart there are two tablespoons per ounce. So, that would be 14 tbsp total you sprayed. I'd say you are way under what you need.

http://exploratorium.edu/cooking/con...surements.html

Rockporter · June 14, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worth1

Why not just put a small valve in line with the tube going to the bucket of fertilizer to turn the suction off and on.
A needle valve would even allow more adjustment to control how much fertilizer it was putting out.
At the end of the feed tube put in a small filter to act as a weight and as a filter.
All this thing is, is a small carburetor using the venturi effect sucking water instead of air.
Buy using the valve it would be the same thing as choking a carburetor but water instead of air.
Opening the faucet valve up more would be the same as the gas peddle on a car thus using more fuel.
Very simplified but more or less the same.
Worth
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...h5TrAxJ_MZHyTw

That's all scientific gobbly gook to me, lol. What valve would work with that? If a valve could be put on it at the faucet area it would work for someone that does not need to turn the water off between watering/feeding areas. I don't like wasting water so I need to be able to have it close enough to me to turn the water off in front of the Hozon. This would allow me to move from point A to point B, without having my fertilized water getting everything else wet, including the ground I am walking on, which would then be a waste of my fertilizer too. So, using a 15' hose like my husband suggested is a great solution for me. I could have my bucket right there with me and watch my fluid levels at the same time.

HudsonValley · June 14, 2017

Thanks for the replies, MissS and Rockporter. It's my understanding (per the kitchen measurement magnet on my refrigerator) that 7 oz. = 14 tablespoons. I thought that I was applying less than the recommended amount based on the number of plants I have,* but later I got confused when I re-read the TTF directions. Must have been an early-onset senior moment!

*I planned to go easy on the TTF, see how the plants look, and re-feed in 10-14 days, again with a weaker than recommended amount. I amended the beds with mushroom compost and a little Tomato Tone before planting out last month.

Rockporter · June 14, 2017

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Originally Posted by HudsonValley

Thanks for the replies, MissS and Rockporter. It's my understanding (per the kitchen measurement magnet on my refrigerator) that 7 oz. = 14 tablespoons. I thought that I was applying less than the recommended amount based on the number of plants I have,* but later I got confused when I re-read the TTF directions. Must have been an early-onset senior moment!

*I planned to go easy on the TTF, see how the plants look, and re-feed in 10-14 days, again with a weaker than recommended amount. I amended the beds with mushroom compost and a little Tomato Tone before planting out last month.

You are welcome, I am no expert at this I just figured you weren't going to find over fertilized plants tomorrow. Maybe one of the more expert users will chime in here.

June 12, 2017	#603
Rockporter Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Texas Coastal Bend Posts: 3,205	Ordered the Hozon off eBay. I'll get both the fertilizers and the Hozon by Saturday delivery so it looks like Sunday I'll be able to test it out. __________________ In the spring at the end of the day you should smell like dirt ~Margaret Atwood~

June 13, 2017	#608
Rockporter Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Texas Coastal Bend Posts: 3,205	TTF and Vegetable have been shipped out. They are only a few hours from me so I think I will see these within a couple of days. Yay! __________________ In the spring at the end of the day you should smell like dirt ~Margaret Atwood~

June 14, 2017	#610
MissS Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 3,150	Was the sprayer set to teaspoons or tablespoons? 2 tablespoons = .5 oz. TTF is supposed to be applied at 1 tablespoon per gallon. __________________ ~ Patti ~

June 14, 2017	#611
Rockporter Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Texas Coastal Bend Posts: 3,205	Got my shipment today. Boy that delivery is fast! __________________ In the spring at the end of the day you should smell like dirt ~Margaret Atwood~

June 12, 2017	#601
elight Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 349	My old Chapin brass hose-end sprayer finally gave out (I left it in a storage bin with pool chemicals, and something corroded the dial that you use to select the mixing ratio... whoops). I hated the spray nozzle on the thing and found it very difficult to get the water to go where I wanted (lots of waste), especially when applying a drench to the soil. Most of the other sprayers, including the ones in this thread, get bad reviews mostly due to poor construction (usually plastic). The Hozon thing is interesting but I can't decide if it would be a pain or not. I'm thinking not. Can I just leave it attached between the hose bib and the hose at all times, and when not in use, leave it there with no side effects?

June 13, 2017	#604
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Why not just put a small valve in line with the tube going to the bucket of fertilizer to turn the suction off and on. A needle valve would even allow more adjustment to control how much fertilizer it was putting out. At the end of the feed tube put in a small filter to act as a weight and as a filter. All this thing is, is a small carburetor using the venturi effect sucking water instead of air. Buy using the valve it would be the same thing as choking a carburetor but water instead of air. Opening the faucet valve up more would be the same as the gas peddle on a car thus using more fuel. Very simplified but more or less the same. Worth https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...h5TrAxJ_MZHyTw

June 13, 2017	#605
elight Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 349	The more and more I think about this, the more I think that I should just get the Ortho plastic hose end sprayer for $11 off Amazon and plan to replace it every year when it breaks. For my limited needs (two 4x4 raised beds, two EarthTainers), messing with the Hozon just doesn't seem worth the aggravation.

June 13, 2017	#606
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	I don't know about the new ones but I have had my old ortho for years.

June 14, 2017	#609
HudsonValley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hudson Valley, NY, Zone 6a Posts: 626	Hmm. First-time TTF user here. Can't figure out if I overdid it (or underdid it). I forgot to mix water into the canister of my new hose-end sprayer before applying, as directed by Urban Farms. I set the dial on the sprayer (Chapin professional all-purpose) to 2, and used about 7 oz. of TTF to water/feed 51 tomatoes, 24 peppers, 12 eggplants, and six mounds of squash and cukes. Can anyone help? Will my plants be hungry or crispy tomorrow?

June 14, 2017	#614
HudsonValley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hudson Valley, NY, Zone 6a Posts: 626	Thanks for the replies, MissS and Rockporter. It's my understanding (per the kitchen measurement magnet on my refrigerator) that 7 oz. = 14 tablespoons. I thought that I was applying less than the recommended amount based on the number of plants I have,* but later I got confused when I re-read the TTF directions. Must have been an early-onset senior moment! *I planned to go easy on the TTF, see how the plants look, and re-feed in 10-14 days, again with a weaker than recommended amount. I amended the beds with mushroom compost and a little Tomato Tone before planting out last month.