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Old December 16, 2016   #661
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Gerardo, the pictures of your son enjoying the tomatoes warm my heart. Keep him close and give him hugs while you still can, they grow up much too fast. Tell him an old man in Texas said Merry Christmas and he hopes Santa will be generous.
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Needed a break.
Early eve snack.
Left to Right
Cherokee Purple, High Mowing, container-drip
Dark Italian, Bunny Hop on the tubes.
Paul Robeson, Fedco, container-drip

(stray rice from Pollo Mongolia)
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Same order
Cherokee Purple, Dark Italian, Paul Robeson.

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Texture: Paul Robeson wins by a nose in
a photo finish with Cherokee Purple. Dark
Italian behind by a head. A good Robeson
specimen can hold its own with many of the best.

Taste: Robeson>Dark Italian>Cherokee Purple.
All of them are awesome, some are more equal than others.

Tormato ashtray factor: Dark Italian > Cherokee Purple > Paul Robeson.

All 3 surpass Noire Charbonneuse.

Ch. Purple

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D. Italian

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I have not grown the middle one but the other two look different than my results. Paul Robeson has yellow skin and CP's locules look much different...
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Old December 16, 2016   #662
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I have not grown the middle one but the other two look different than my results. Paul Robeson has yellow skin and CP's locules look much different...
It's possible, no doubt. The CP, while mistakenly identified above as originating from High Mowing, is actually from a free pack that came in some seed stash, so it is more than likely.
I agree the locules should be more "trapezoidal" if you get my drift. Other tomatoes from the same plant have been larger, longship shaped, and green shouldered. Not too productive so no seed saved.

The PR comes from Fedco, so again, it could be the case. I grew a couple of plants and they all produced the same tomato, brownish-purple, similar to Tasmanian Chocolate. The growth habit of this plant was similar to previous versions of PR I've grown from Baker Creek (or at least how I remember it, compact, bit of leaf curl) This Fedco version is very tasty.

I enjoy the sleuthing. And the best part is it gives me a reason to do more side by side tests. Hope the snow hasn't arrived to stay. Cheers!

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Old December 17, 2016   #664
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Old December 17, 2016   #665
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Picked clean two Chang Li plants. Saving seeds and the rest are headed to my nephew, he loves them.

A few Zarca for seed saving, as they are blemish free. A productive and relatively normal sized climber, each cluster averages 4-6 golf ball to racquetball sized. More than acceptable on the flavor end, and when heat is applied they are excellent, flavor really emerges. They are perfectly sized for this purpose, with wall and skin thickness that help to hold their integrity, practically designed for putting two skewers through them and grilling away.

One of the last Lyana channeled for seed before anyone eats it, a nifty compact determinate, hearty, puts out nice saladettes. It'll be my 2nd option for compact tomato plant gift, 1st being Gribovsky, Mano is on the same short list. All of these can also play quite well with skewers and charcoal.

On the right two trusses of Rev Michael Keyes, a great tasting multiflora. Cold seems to have stopped it dead in its tracks.

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I'm glad you like Chang Li and Zarca. Did I send you Grot, too? It seems similar to Zarca. I am wondering if they would both make excellent storage tomatoes. Did you grow the Colgar tomatoes? How do they compare to Zarca?
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I'm glad you like Chang Li and Zarca. Did I send you Grot, too? It seems similar to Zarca. I am wondering if they would both make excellent storage tomatoes. Did you grow the Colgar tomatoes? How do they compare to Zarca?
No Grot, by all means bring it on if it's similar. As you well know Zarca has a long storage life, it tastes pretty good in the early phase too. I really dig these tasty golf ball with firm walls that are versatile, on hearty productive plants.

De Colgar tomatoes are similar, some are great fresh, but they really shine when you wait a while. I'm about to embark on another De Colgar adventure, so I'll have more to report in a few months.

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Elgin Pink was excellent for me and was barely nudged from returning by Rebel Yell. It came down to the better name and the Rebel Yell will get more votes at the tomato festival next year. I'm all about winning that crown now.

Both of these potato leafed pinks had excellent habits for container growing. The Rebel Yell had slightly thinner vines and more rangy and both considerably more diminutive than the Brandy Boys. The Elgin Pink was a bit fuller on foliage, but both produced equally well and were 20+ lb plants.
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Elgin Pink was excellent for me and was barely nudged from returning by Rebel Yell. It came down to the better name and the Rebel Yell will get more votes at the tomato festival next year. I'm all about winning that crown now.

Both of these potato leafed pinks had excellent habits for container growing. The Rebel Yell had slightly thinner vines and more rangy and both considerably more diminutive than the Brandy Boys. The Elgin Pink was a bit fuller on foliage, but both produced equally well and were 20+ lb plants.
Eyes on the crown brother, I'm sure you'll get it this year. Marvin M's book is well worth a read, the user comments are quite informative and full of gems.

Rebel Yell struggled for me, I gave it two good spots and got a total of only a few tomatoes, mighty tasty and pretty orbs. Whereas Elgin P and Terhune distinguished themselves on the size, flavor, AND productivity fronts.

Giving Rebel Yell another shot with different seed, placing it alongside Terhune, Dester, Elgin P, Nicky Crain and SOTW in the great pink showdown on the tubes. I'm hoping these guys will grow to the point of having to buy clothes at Thornton Melon's store. An alternate name for this contest would be the great EB race.

The foliage was one of the high points of Elgin P, I agree.
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I had thought Rebel Yell had Brandywine heritage, but I just looked it up and the parents are Stump of the World and Bear Claw. RY does seem to have the same finicky fruit-set trait as Brandwine, even if they are not related. Mine stopped setting in early summer until I took off the high tunnel plastic. It was getting too hot.
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The three potato leaf plants in last year's garden did well with the dry heat here in regards to production and taste. Fruit appearance was all over the map though. Rebel Yell was easily the best with some concentric cracking, but zero cat-facing, large and well formed. The Brandy Boy were largest, but had the big cat-facing problem, and often misshapen. The Elgin was in the middle, some cat-facing, but half were misshapen to a high degree. The odd shape certainly not hurting the taste, just not a good slicing tom for sandwiches.
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Another superior tasting pink is Marianna's Peace, it is very good but was finicky for me, and the fruits were ugly as they come. However, it will be used with RY as breeding stock for me, the same fate as BW Sudduth's. I can capture the taste and the crosses are not as challenging to grow.
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Another superior tasting pink is Marianna's Peace, it is very good but was finicky for me, and the fruits were ugly as they come. However, it will be used with RY as breeding stock for me, the same fate as BW Sudduth's. I can capture the taste and the crosses are not as challenging to grow.
Will RY take the ugly out mark? Not tryin to be funny. Or were the MP compromised somehow?
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No. I should have stated that they will be bred to nicer looking, and probably earlier producing tomatoes rather than each other.
MP, did not produce well, and they were very irregular in shape, catfaced, and some split too. I was very impressed the taste.
RY does pretty okay, tastes great.
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Old December 20, 2016   #675
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Some seedlings about to get new homes.

0-33, Pravda, Pruden's Purple, Gribovsky, Mikhalych, Koroleva, EM Champ, Cosm Volkov.

Dense planting on Gribovsky rockin'.

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