Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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February 8, 2019 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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See quote below. I am in total agreement. No harm, no foul. Quote:
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No worries, Ted. I know you'd never willingly affiliate yourself with such a group. How disgusting of them to use your good name to legitimize themselves.
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February 8, 2019 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
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I know next to nothing about the WTS web site, the people who run it, their reputations or motives & have no reason to doubt those at T'ville who are better informed or have had experience with them.
However, FWIW, I am in a Facebook tomato group (that I asked to join) which added WTS to its name (about 3 months ago) & enjoy my time there. Just wanted to make that distinction. |
February 8, 2019 | #4 |
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Oh good grief. I just peeked. It reads like those pharmaceutical tv adds.
Yes they have a big list of seed sellers that reads "Our seed partners..." rather than 'These seed sellers...' I wonder how many know they are 'partners' or even realize what that means. And wonder if Craig knows his picture is still there. Clearly anyone that may have actually signed up did so innocently and may have paid it no further attention. |
February 8, 2019 | #5 |
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Self promoting rich parasites with noses stuck so high in the air if it came a hard rain they would drown.
Love the right off the rack squeaky clean fake farmer costumes. I find it insulting and offensive to real hard working ranchers and farmers which I was raised up as. I honestly think that's what bothers me the most. |
February 9, 2019 | #6 | |
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February 8, 2019 | #7 |
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Thanks for letting me know - I actually never did and won't go and look, so if they have my pic there, it is against my wishes. Like I said, I was involved more to keep an eye on the direction they were going. What is that saying? It is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, wrapped in....etc. Request to redo the sever made.....argggggh
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February 8, 2019 | #8 |
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Mischka wrote:
No worries, Ted. I know you'd never willingly affiliate yourself with such a group. How disgusting of them to use your good name to legitimize themselves. ================================================== === Thank you, sir. I left SSE for (in my opinion) similar reasons (i.e.; "My perception of the apparent motives of the management"). That decision worked out well.
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February 8, 2019 | #9 | |
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Our inclusion at the WTS site is news to all three vendors at Heritage Seed Market (Ellie,Ted, and myself) and none of us appreciate our name being used for promotional purposes without our permission. Thanks all for the heads up! Steve |
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February 8, 2019 | #10 |
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I think that it is worth separating the two main issues popping up in this thread. I've already discussed how I got tangled with WTS in the first place - and from what I was told today, my separation from them should now be complete.
As far as the SSE, we wouldn't have Tomatoville, there would be no huge collections of heirloom varieties available and so many wonderful seed companies if not for what began there - the great idea - in 1975. None of us will ever be in agreement for how any company or organization evolves over the years, particularly one that has been vital for more than 40 years. I am a lifetime member and offer just a few varieties, but will continue to work from within as best I can, when asked, toward any directional shifts that may be needed, and do what I can to influence them toward an organization that provides the most value.
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I wish you success in your endeavors. Always your friend
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February 8, 2019 | #12 |
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As of tonight, Craig's photos and essays are still up on that site:
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February 9, 2019 | #13 |
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I had to scan down pages and pages on their Facebook site to find those old posts by Craig from July 11 and July 13 of 2018. I don't do
Facebook enough to know if he can just delete them from someone else's site.
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February 9, 2019 | #14 |
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What happened happened. I've also made a lot of bad decisions in my life. What I could, I corrected it. The most important thing is what is now and what it will be, as Mischka writes.
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February 9, 2019 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: Southeast Kansas
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I contacted Lee Goodwin last night and he wasn't even aware the WTS even existed much less that he was listed as a seed "partner".
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