Urban Farms Texas Tomato Food - Page 52

b54red · April 22, 2020

I can't tell you how much you will need. It can depend on how rich your soil is and how much TTF it takes per plant to maintain good growth and production. I usually step up my dosing of the plants as they get larger so as the season goes along I use more and more each time I apply it. I don't think you will have any trouble using a case with 100 plants but if you have any left over it can be used in the fall and winter for those other types of plants. I prefer to use the Vegetable formula for everything except tomatoes because I think it gives me better results but the TTF is certainly a good fertilizer with anything I have tried it on.

If you want a mixed case just order a case of gallons and then send Ed an email telling him how you want the case filled.

Bill

zeuspaul · April 22, 2020

Bill, I am curious how many gallons you use for your 60? inground? plants per season? I know there are a lot of variables and my growing conditions and soil may be significantly different than yours.

I usually grow my inground plants without any fertilizer. Mostly just drip irrigation and sometimes a little mulch. I get good enough production from hybrids and so so production from OPs. I get enough tomato production by having a lot of plants. However this year hybrids are almost non existent because the local nurseries don't have them. Also local seed sources are scarce. So I have to resort to scrounging through my OP seed collection.

Judging from your success with improved tomato set I want to try TTF to improve the production of my OPs.

There is no way I can properly care for 100 plants. I have too many outdoor chores. I will be feeding with a watering can. I will only be buying TTF and using up my stash of MG. I wanted to grow other vegetables but nursery offerings are lacking this year and NONE of my old squash and lettuce seeds have sprouted.

I was lucky to get an order in for 1 gallon of TTF which seems to be on a slow boat. I will try for a case of TTF which I believe comes UPS but Urban Farms has stopped accepting orders.

I am GUESSING I may use 1 gallon per week per plant. If I feed once a week for June, July, August and September that would be 16 gallons per plant for the season. A gallon of TTF dilutes to 256 gallons so 1 gallon would feed 16 plants. So 5 gallons would feed 80 plants.

Assuming I am off by a factor of 2 the range of plants I could feed would be 40 to 180. I am more interested in having enough than too much so my guess is I should select 40 plants for the TTF regimen and do the rest with MG.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by b54red

I can't tell you how much you will need. It can depend on how rich your soil is and how much TTF it takes per plant to maintain good growth and production. I usually step up my dosing of the plants as they get larger so as the season goes along I use more and more each time I apply it. I don't think you will have any trouble using a case with 100 plants but if you have any left over it can be used in the fall and winter for those other types of plants. I prefer to use the Vegetable formula for everything except tomatoes because I think it gives me better results but the TTF is certainly a good fertilizer with anything I have tried it on.

If you want a mixed case just order a case of gallons and then send Ed an email telling him how you want the case filled.

Bill

b54red · April 23, 2020

I have to be honest with you and tell you that I have no idea how much I will use any one year for sixty or more plants. I can tell you that I will use less than a gallon per plant at the recommended rate the first and maybe second time that I apply the TTF. After that it increases with the size and production of the plant. If the plants look a bit faded or pale then I may give a full grown plant an ounce or more to perk them up and get them producing more. This can take a good bit of water so I use a Chameleon hose end sprayer and set the dial at one TBS if conditions are average or dry but will move it up if the soil is wet from rain so that the dose they get isn't too diluted by the wet ground.

Keep trying to order from Urban Farms until the order goes through. I had to do that on my last order when I got a case. Since ordering seems to be a problem now I wish I had just gone ahead and ordered two cases; but I like the stuff as fresh as possible for it is easier to shake up and has less crystallization problems. You could also alternate using the MG and TTF if you aren't able to get enough TTF. I used to use MG but once I tried TTF I was sold because of the much increased fruit set; but if I can't order more when I need it I will use the Miracle Grow.

Bill

zeuspaul · April 23, 2020

Urban Farms is back in business at least for now.

I saved a whopping $2.45 per gallon by purchasing a case! They don't seem to have a very good contract with UPS.

edweather · May 29, 2020

Is Urban Farms closed? On ebay it says seller is away and not processing orders.

Okijames · May 29, 2020

I've successfully ordered directly from The Urban Farm web site twice in recent weeks. They are frequently out of stock, so I suggest checking a few times each day, and ordering quickly when it is available!

KathyDC · May 29, 2020

I was able to get an order in about two days ago, but I still don't have tracking for it, so it seems patience is required in all things.

dshreter · July 5, 2020

I know it’s important to avoid salt accumulation with TTF, which you would think could be an issue with earthboxes since they really don’t flush when bottom watered. I’ve started by putting the TTF straight in the watering tube, but am now concerned that the salts will eventually concentrate in the box.

So now I’m thinking to top water the boxes with a hose end sprayer / fertilizer mixer which could flush the salts through the soil, down into the reservoir, and out the overflow. I don’t use the plastic mulch topper anyway so this is easy to do.

Has anyone else been using TTF to top water earthboxes? Has anyone using it had issues with salt accumulation in EBs when adding it through the tube?

elight · July 7, 2020

I can tell you that TTF certainly "settles" and thus does not work with a fertilizer injector like the Ez-Flow. (I called them once and they confirmed this.) I would think it would have the same problem in a SWC situation leading to build-up on the bottom of the reservoir and nutrients not getting to the plants.

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Ocalagal · May 14, 2021

Just thought Id update this thread with my first use of TTF. I planted these seeds back in February, or thereabouts. The plants are (from left to right) Steakhouse, Bella Rosa, Celebrity, and Climbing Tripl Crop. The branches are kinda of weaving from side to side, so I think some of those Celebrities are actually Bella Rosas. Ive never had much luck with tomatoes, so I have to think this TTF is some kind of magic. Im sold.

lapk78 · April 2, 2022

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocalagal

Just thought Id update this thread with my first use of TTF. I planted these seeds back in February, or thereabouts. The plants are (from left to right) Steakhouse, Bella Rosa, Celebrity, and Climbing Tripl Crop. The branches are kinda of weaving from side to side, so I think some of those Celebrities are actually Bella Rosas. Ive never had much luck with tomatoes, so I have to think this TTF is some kind of magic. Im sold.

So now that least year's season is ancient history, what are your impressions of TTF?

lapk78 · April 2, 2022

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocalagal

Just thought Id update this thread with my first use of TTF. I planted these seeds back in February, or thereabouts. The plants are (from left to right) Steakhouse, Bella Rosa, Celebrity, and Climbing Tripl Crop. The branches are kinda of weaving from side to side, so I think some of those Celebrities are actually Bella Rosas. Ive never had much luck with tomatoes, so I have to think this TTF is some kind of magic. Im sold.

So now that last year's season is ancient history, what are your impressions of TTF?

Ocalagal · April 2, 2022

Im still sold. I gave some TTF to a few friends of mine who just plant a few tomatoes a year, and they had their best year ever. I dont want to sound like a commercial, but as long as Im growing a veg garden, I will always use the TTF and vegie from Urban Farms.

Saskatchetoon · April 3, 2022

I can attest to TTF based on one year of use.

I used it once every three waterings on a dozen grafted plants They grew 6+ ft tall and just absolutely loaded with fruit and foliage. Large fruit of 24oz and larger on my Mortgage Lifters and my Black Krim produced way more fruit than I could personally handle.

jhp · April 5, 2022

I've been using Texas Tomato Food since 2017. I didn't realize it had been that long until I just looked at my garden notes. I do think it helps with more flowering and fruit set. It's not cheap, but I keep buying it because I do believe it helps. I haven't done any tests with and without it in the same year. But I do think I am getting better results with it, than I did before I started using it. I haven't used any of the other type of fertilizers they have, I've only used the TTF from Urban Farm Fertilizers. I've been tempted to try others for other plants besides tomatoes.

You can check out my garden instagram account to see pics of my garden. You'll have to scroll down to posts from summer if you want to see any tomatoes.

Jen

https://www.instagram.com/jen.loves.tomato/

May 29, 2020	#770
edweather Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Southeast GA, USDA 9a, HZ9, Sunset Z28 Posts: 396	Is Urban Farms closed? On ebay it says seller is away and not processing orders. __________________ You'll be surprised what you'll never have to do, if you put it off long enough.

April 5, 2022	#780
jhp Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Danbury, CT Posts: 492	I've been using Texas Tomato Food since 2017. I didn't realize it had been that long until I just looked at my garden notes. I do think it helps with more flowering and fruit set. It's not cheap, but I keep buying it because I do believe it helps. I haven't done any tests with and without it in the same year. But I do think I am getting better results with it, than I did before I started using it. I haven't used any of the other type of fertilizers they have, I've only used the TTF from Urban Farm Fertilizers. I've been tempted to try others for other plants besides tomatoes. You can check out my garden instagram account to see pics of my garden. You'll have to scroll down to posts from summer if you want to see any tomatoes. Jen https://www.instagram.com/jen.loves.tomato/ Last edited by jhp; April 5, 2022 at 04:58 PM.

April 22, 2020	#766
b54red Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,068	I can't tell you how much you will need. It can depend on how rich your soil is and how much TTF it takes per plant to maintain good growth and production. I usually step up my dosing of the plants as they get larger so as the season goes along I use more and more each time I apply it. I don't think you will have any trouble using a case with 100 plants but if you have any left over it can be used in the fall and winter for those other types of plants. I prefer to use the Vegetable formula for everything except tomatoes because I think it gives me better results but the TTF is certainly a good fertilizer with anything I have tried it on. If you want a mixed case just order a case of gallons and then send Ed an email telling him how you want the case filled. Bill

April 23, 2020	#768
b54red Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,068	I have to be honest with you and tell you that I have no idea how much I will use any one year for sixty or more plants. I can tell you that I will use less than a gallon per plant at the recommended rate the first and maybe second time that I apply the TTF. After that it increases with the size and production of the plant. If the plants look a bit faded or pale then I may give a full grown plant an ounce or more to perk them up and get them producing more. This can take a good bit of water so I use a Chameleon hose end sprayer and set the dial at one TBS if conditions are average or dry but will move it up if the soil is wet from rain so that the dose they get isn't too diluted by the wet ground. Keep trying to order from Urban Farms until the order goes through. I had to do that on my last order when I got a case. Since ordering seems to be a problem now I wish I had just gone ahead and ordered two cases; but I like the stuff as fresh as possible for it is easier to shake up and has less crystallization problems. You could also alternate using the MG and TTF if you aren't able to get enough TTF. I used to use MG but once I tried TTF I was sold because of the much increased fruit set; but if I can't order more when I need it I will use the Miracle Grow. Bill

April 23, 2020	#769
zeuspaul Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: North County, San Diego Posts: 419	Urban Farms is back in business at least for now. I saved a whopping $2.45 per gallon by purchasing a case! They don't seem to have a very good contract with UPS.

May 29, 2020	#771
Okijames Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Orange County, CA Zone 10A Posts: 19	I've successfully ordered directly from The Urban Farm web site twice in recent weeks. They are frequently out of stock, so I suggest checking a few times each day, and ordering quickly when it is available!

May 29, 2020	#772
KathyDC Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Suburban Washington, DC (Zone 7A) Posts: 347	I was able to get an order in about two days ago, but I still don't have tracking for it, so it seems patience is required in all things.

July 5, 2020	#773
dshreter Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2019 Location: Seattle Posts: 58	I know it’s important to avoid salt accumulation with TTF, which you would think could be an issue with earthboxes since they really don’t flush when bottom watered. I’ve started by putting the TTF straight in the watering tube, but am now concerned that the salts will eventually concentrate in the box. So now I’m thinking to top water the boxes with a hose end sprayer / fertilizer mixer which could flush the salts through the soil, down into the reservoir, and out the overflow. I don’t use the plastic mulch topper anyway so this is easy to do. Has anyone else been using TTF to top water earthboxes? Has anyone using it had issues with salt accumulation in EBs when adding it through the tube?

July 7, 2020	#774
elight Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 349	I can tell you that TTF certainly "settles" and thus does not work with a fertilizer injector like the Ez-Flow. (I called them once and they confirmed this.) I would think it would have the same problem in a SWC situation leading to build-up on the bottom of the reservoir and nutrients not getting to the plants. Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

May 14, 2021	#775
Ocalagal Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Florida Posts: 12	Just thought Id update this thread with my first use of TTF. I planted these seeds back in February, or thereabouts. The plants are (from left to right) Steakhouse, Bella Rosa, Celebrity, and Climbing Tripl Crop. The branches are kinda of weaving from side to side, so I think some of those Celebrities are actually Bella Rosas. Ive never had much luck with tomatoes, so I have to think this TTF is some kind of magic. Im sold.

April 2, 2022	#778
Ocalagal Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Florida Posts: 12	Im still sold. I gave some TTF to a few friends of mine who just plant a few tomatoes a year, and they had their best year ever. I dont want to sound like a commercial, but as long as Im growing a veg garden, I will always use the TTF and vegie from Urban Farms.

April 3, 2022	#779
Saskatchetoon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Saskatoon Saskatchewan Posts: 38	I can attest to TTF based on one year of use. I used it once every three waterings on a dozen grafted plants They grew 6+ ft tall and just absolutely loaded with fruit and foliage. Large fruit of 24oz and larger on my Mortgage Lifters and my Black Krim produced way more fruit than I could personally handle.