2017 tentative grow list

[Gardeneer]

Originally Posted by ACEBUGGIES

Ohh Gardeneer sounds like we are on the same wave length hehehe. Are these varieties you have grown before, if so what do you think of them?...I suppose if you have before and are growing again you must like them lol.

I have grown 4 of the tomatoes before and of them (Golden Junilee) is new that has very good reviews.
On the peppers side, all I have grown them before except Re Belgian. and Estaceno.

[throwaway]

First year with a garden and I have room for ~14 tomato assuming I diversify. Going with:

Cherokee Purple
Green Zebra
Early Girl
Ferry Morse Beefsteak (?? no idea what this one is)
Black Beauty
Lucid Gem
Fox
Husky Red Cherry
Black Vernissage
Barry's Crazy

Otherwise 5 cucumbers, 4 sweet peppers, legumes, winter squash.

I was hoping that we'd spend this year trying a different tomato in every slot, narrow down our favorites, and plant more of those next year. Instead, I added 11 more varieties to the list and I haven't even started on the dwarfs yet. Looking for more spaces to drop in a garden bed

[WLeClair]

Trying to find larger ones that succeed well in my climate (zone 8b / 9). I am leaning toward determinate (to harvest most early) and dwarf to see if any will do differently later in the season when the heat and dryness comes.

Black Cherry (did great last year)
Brandyfred Dwarf (new to dwarfs this year - trying 6)
Burbank Slicing (never tried -- supposedly does well in dry climates)
Earlygirl (succeeded a while back for me)
Golden Gypsy Dwarf
Legend (never tried)
Magnus (never tried -- like the history)
Rosella Crimson Dwarf
San Marzano (has done great the last 2 seasons)
Sun Gold (did great last year)
Sweet Scarlet Dwarf
Tiger Tom
Uluru Ochre Dwarf
Waratah Dwarf


Outside of tomatoes I'm also growing:

Sugar Baby Watermelon
Honey Rock Muskmelon
Top Crop Bush Beans
Lemon Cucucumber
Bush Crop Cucumber
Midori Giant Soybeans (never had luck with any soybean really - too dry???)
Large Red Cherry Pepper

[Fred Hempel]

These are "new-to-me" varieties I am growing this year:

Lemon Drop
Matt's Wild Cherry
Cherry Roma
Toronjina
Sakura

[Cole_Robbie]

Matt's Wild Cherry

It's a good name for selling plants. And the flavor is good, too.

But be forewarned, Matt's Wild is a horrible choice for a market gardener. Other than the fruit being tiny, they like to burst in the box, when touched, when hit with a slight breeze, when given a dirty look, etc.

[Fred Hempel]

Thanks Cole,

I am interested in using MWC as a parent for hybrids, for it's plant vigor and disease resistance.

I would cross it with large cherry and saladette types that could mitigate the small/delicate fruit traits.

So, given that, how is the disease resistance and vigor? I've heard it is pretty good and one of the high end farms I work with uses it (along with my Spike which is also horrible for market gardeners because it goes soft so quickly).

Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

Matt's Wild Cherry

It's a good name for selling plants. And the flavor is good, too.

But be forewarned, Matt's Wild is a horrible choice for a market gardener. Other than the fruit being tiny, they like to burst in the box, when touched, when hit with a slight breeze, when given a dirty look, etc.

[Labradors2]

I grew Lemon Drop a couple of years ago and found it very tart. I guess the name is descriptive!

Linda

[Cole_Robbie]

So, given that, how is the disease resistance and vigor?

Excellent on both counts.

[Fred Hempel]

Good to hear. That is what I saw this past week in Mexico (I have tomatoes on a collaborators farm). MWC appeared to have very good viral resistance too.

Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

So, given that, how is the disease resistance and vigor?

Excellent on both counts.

[AlittleSalt]

So far, the list looks like this:

Tomatoes 2017

Accession PI 119215
Accession PI 647466 99GI
Amarillo
Ambrosia Red
Anna Aasa
Annie Sunshine
Atkinson
Aunt Ruby’s Yellow Cherry F?
Big *** Tomato F2
Big Beef F1
Black Striped Heart Cherry
Dancing with Smurfs
Exp. Yellow Cherry PL F4
Gargamel
Garnet
Golden Starlight F3 (Named after Starlight here at TV)
Grape F2
Green Envy F?
Honeydrop (Fedco)
Hssiao His Hung Shih
Ice Cherry
Japanese Pink Cherry
Lover's Lunch
Mat-Su Express F5
Matt's Wild Cherry
Medovaya Kaplya
Momotaro F2
Mom's Big Fat Red Grape
Old Ivory Egg
Oranje Van Goeijenbier
P20 x Da Pimp F3
Peacevine
Pink Ping Pong
Pink Princess (Gene Pool)
Porter
Purple Dragon
Schlicht’s Orange Cherry
Suncherry Extra Sweet F1
Sungold F1
Sunny Boy F1
Super Sweet 100 F1
Sweet Carneros Pink
Sweet Million F1
Sweetie (Beefsteak)
Sweetie (Cherry)
Sweet Mojo F?
WOW

[Gardeneer]

Some list, Robert.
I read a lot of the names for the first time. Or I do not remember having heard the names before.

I have just one of yours in my list : BIG BEEF F1

Have a good 2017 season.

[AlittleSalt]

Thank you Gardeneer. You have a good 2017 season too.

There are some on my list I haven't heard of until about a week ago.

[Dark Rumor]

Originally Posted by throwaway

First year with a garden and I have room for ~14 tomato assuming I diversify. Going with:

Cherokee Purple
Green Zebra
Early Girl
Ferry Morse Beefsteak (?? no idea what this one is)
Black Beauty
Lucid Gem
Fox
Husky Red Cherry
Black Vernissage
Barry's Crazy

Otherwise 5 cucumbers, 4 sweet peppers, legumes, winter squash.

I was hoping that we'd spend this year trying a different tomato in every slot, narrow down our favorites, and plant more of those next year. Instead, I added 11 more varieties to the list and I haven't even started on the dwarfs yet. Looking for more spaces to drop in a garden bed

Beefsteak from Ferry Morse are decent size, mild flavor, a little soft texture (almost mushy), very productive and very early. They should be a good comparison to early girl.

[Father'sDaughter]

Swap seeds are in, so here's my final answer!

Originally Posted by Father'sDaughter

This year's plan:

I'm grafting all my in ground tomatoes for the first time,
I've scaled back my raised bed plants by three (one row), and
I'm eliminating all grow bag plants except for the dwarf project grow outs (these will not be grafted)

As for what I'm growing, this is as far as I'm going until I see what the Swap adds to my seed collection --

Eating (going for variety again this year):

One cherry (Franchi cherry)

One early (Moskvich - third attempt)

Hearts -
Yellow/orange (Orange Minsk Heart)
Pink (Cuor Di Beau - repeat)
Red (Donskoi)

Beefsteak/Round -
Yellow/orange (Azoychka)
Pink (Seek No Further Love Apple - repeat)
Red (Tarasenko 6 - repeat)

Repeat Pastes:
Santa Maria
Nudi Family Heirloom
Oroma
Buddy Runyon
San Marzano Redorta
Russian 117 (also good for eating)

New pastes:

Sulia's Heart
Aunt Swarlo's Polish Plum
Abbatista
Blue Beech
Spagnoletta

[throwaway]

Originally Posted by Dark Rumor

Beefsteak from Ferry Morse are decent size, mild flavor, a little soft texture (almost mushy), very productive and very early. They should be a good comparison to early girl.

Mystery solved. Thanks! Assuming its indeterminate?