Germination/Updates(2012); My Seed Offer

[lakelady]

Originally Posted by lakelady

I started all seeds received on 2/19, all from 2011

Hoy, all 5 seeds sown, 0 germination;
Russian Queen, 6 seeds sown, 0 germination;
Lucinda, 5 seeds sown, 1 possible germination, but it looks like a dwarf, not SFT foliage so I'm not sure it's really Lucinda;
Indian Stripe Potato Leaf, 5 seeds sown, 4 seeds germinated.

I did have a couple of Hoy from another source, was able to sow those and they did germinate so I'm happy I have Hoy, but disappointed as I was really looking forward to Russian Queen and Lucinda!

All seeds were sown in Jiffy Organic Seed Starting Mix, no fertilizer over a heat mat.

Well surprise of surprises; one Lucinda finally DID germinate! Yay, I now have one tiny seedling with first true leaves up I am so happy because I really wanted to see this one and taste the fruits since I loved the foliage on SFT.

[Father'sDaughter]

I'm also having problems with Terhune. Of the three started on 3/11, only one came up and made it to the up-potting stage, one never shed it's seed coat, and the third was a no show. I planted the last two seeds I had about two weeks ago and am still waiting to see if they do anything. I'll give these two a good long chance, but at least I have one plant that will (knocking on wood) make it to the garden.

The only others I'm having germination issues with are several from the dwarf project and the Jersey Devils.

[Plantersville]

Carolyn, here is my results from planting seeds you sent........

Black Cherry-2007 seeds-12 seeds planted-9 seeds germinated in 5 days-soaked overnite as per instructions
Green Zebra Cherry-2009 seeds-12 seeds planted-3 germinated in 5 days-dont know why I didnt soak these as well....

no treatment given to seeds.............

all 12 plants were planted in the garden on 3/17/12.........cant wait to taste these and will certainly save seeds from the first crop that ripen.......

Thanks for all your hard work, Carolyn........

[rsg2001]

Carolyn, I did the same thing Ginny did and saw that the results sounded weak for Terhune of those who have reported so far. I really urge anyone else who has Terhune and hasn't reported, to PLEASE post on their results. It doesn't seem like very many people have reported.

As I noted, so far I've had nothing sprout out of the four seeds that I received of that variety. Generally, my m.o. is that I will plant 8 seeds of each variety I want to have in the garden, and if I don't get sufficient germination in a 'reasonable' period of time I'll try again. I am pretty good at getting germination and it is rare that I don't get any result at all for a variety.

The varieties from plants I grew previously for which I have saved some seed for myself are doing decently; e.g., I have gotten nice sprouts from two-year-old Moravski Div seed that I saved from a prior Dr. Carolyn offer, and also from Green Zebra Cherry, same provenance. I had an amazing experience with Eva Purple Ball last year (TGS seeds) so I saved seeds that are doing well, as well as 2010s I have for Cherokee Purple. I saved seeds from a box of cherry tomatoes I bought at a green market last year in New Paltz from 4 Winds Farm, called Honey Drop Cherry, and I've gotten 100% germination on the 8 I sowed. So far, my only bad experience is with a hot pepper called Black Lite Bulb, 0/8, from a plant I bought at Dutchess County Botanical Gardens. I will try some more.

[sic transit gloria]

Terhune 1 of 9 germinated, no treatment
Heshpole 1 of 4
Kukla Portuguese heart 1 of 5
Malachite Box (from last year) 5 of 5
Podorok Fei 6 of 6, although two appeared entombed in their seed capsule
Hays' (last year's seed) 3 of 4
Bobbie (last year's seed) 3 of 4

[lurley]

I updated my earlier post with my final germination results. Some were very slow, weeks in germinating, while others were nearly 100%, only one was a no show completely. I was really worried about the pink currant but did end up with one plant finally showing up.

[ddsack]

Seeds were sowed on March 25th, after 14 days, the results are as follows:

Fish Lake Oxheart – 7 > 5 up (first in 7 days, last in 10 days) 71%

Green Doctor's Frosted – 10 > 8 up (lst in 4d, last in 13d) 80%

Herman's Special – 10 > 4 up (lst in 6d, last in 11d) 40%

Maiden's Gold – 8 > 3 up (lst in 7d, last in 12d) 37%

Vince P1 Experimental – 9 > 6 up (1st in 7d, last in 13d) 66%


I did find many seed heads clamped onto the Green Dr's, but was able to get them off with few problems.

I was not so lucky with Maiden's Gold, only have one healthy seedling of three that came up. One neck rotted under the seed casing, and the leaf embryos were still white and pasty despite having been above ground for a few days. The other one I damaged in trying to get the casing off. Don't know if there's enough material left for it to recover. But all I need is one! Thanks for the seeds!

[clara]

I'm a bit ashamed to report about the mess I had this year...

I had bought the same bad stuff as starting mix than 2 or 3 years ago, remembered it too late. It was great for the peppers, but a real catastrophe for tomatoes: slow germination, very weak seedlings, many of them died. In this first tray, I had placed (among others) half of Carolyn's seeds, but couldn't rescue a single one.

Bought new starting mix, sowed the second half of Carolyn's seeds and everything was doing well, had first signs of germination. Then my little granddaughter (5) came for a short visit and we both, together, sprayed some water to keep the mixture humid and replaced the cover; everything okay. But when I was in the kitchen or wherever, the little girl decided to "help" me even a bit more: She poured a full can of water into the tray, of course without telling me - she wanted it to become a surprise for me... Yes, it really was when I discovered it the next day. To make a long story short: Now I have:

2 Casino Chips and 1 Vince P1 and no seeds left.

I'm very sad that there will be no Ambrosia, Maiden's Gold, Zolotoy Zapas in the garden this year! clara

[JoAnne]

Hi Carolyn,

Seeds sown on March 21 (I'm late, I know, that's just the way it is this year....sigh) in Miracle Grow seed starter mix, cells, heat mats. Grow lights turned on only when germination started.

Blush: 3/3 (100%)
Fish Lake Oxheart: 3/3 (100%)
Lucinda: 3/3 (100%)
Podorok Fei: 1/3 (33%)
Russian Queen: 3/3 (100%)

I am very pleased with these results! All seedlings are vigorous and healthy, although Podorok Fei is a little weaker at this point.

Thanks much for this offer - I am excited to taste these tomatoes!

-JoAnne

[paprika]

Morning Carolyn!

Seeded 4 Indian Stripe Potato Leaf on March 30th.

2 sprouted on day 5 (April 4th)
1 sprouted on day 6 (April 5th) with serious case of "helmut head"
As of day 10 (today) the last seed is still being shy, but sprout 3 has finally split out of his helmet(with the help of lot's of spit <grin>)!
So we stand at 75% (3 of 4) germination on day 10.
I will be trialing these right next to regular leaf Indian Stripes from 3 different sources so I can compare traits.

And again, Thank you kindly for the seeds(and for all that you so generously do for the tomato world) and will keep you updated on results.

TimothyT
PS Are the 2011 Indian Stripe Potato Leaf seeds you sent directly from B54Red in Alabama or from your own growout?

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by paprika

Morning Carolyn!

Seeded 4 Indian Stripe Potato Leaf on March 30th.

2 sprouted on day 5 (April 4th)
1 sprouted on day 6 (April 5th) with serious case of "helmut head"
As of day 10 (today) the last seed is still being shy, but sprout 3 has finally split out of his helmet(with the help of lot's of spit <grin>)!
So we stand at 75% (3 of 4) germination on day 10.
I will be trialing these right next to regular leaf Indian Stripes from 3 different sources so I can compare traits.

And again, Thank you kindly for the seeds(and for all that you so generously do for the tomato world) and will keep you updated on results.

TimothyT
PS Are the 2011 Indian Stripe Potato Leaf seeds you sent directly from B54Red in Alabama or from your own growout?

First, thanks to all of you for posting your results and it becomes clearer and clearer to me, as expected, that germination for many is just fine, and with the same exact seeds for others it is not.

I'm still having some health problems, so post when I can.

Timothy, B54 did not produce the seeds that I distributed. He sent me some seeds last Spring, and as usual I sent seeds to Craig who raises my plants for me and the same seeds to one of the guys who helps with seed production.

The seeds I sent out for the seed offer were from one of those coveted helpers.

The plant that Craig sent me was PL, as were the plants that the seed producer grew.

I no longer can produce seed here at home, with very few exceptions, and recently just the experimental pink currant seeds distributed to just four folks that were in the experimental section. And that b'c the actual fruits were sent to me all smushed up as I had asked for b'c the person had never fermented seeds before and I thought it would work best to do that, so I had to ferment them ASAP, and did.

[cloz]

Hi Carolyn

Germination results:

Fish Lake Oxheart 3/3 100%
Pedorak 2/5 40%
Kukla's Portuguese Heart 1/5 20%
Cuore del Drago 0/5 0%
Blush 0/5 0%

Overall I started 300 seeds and had 83% germination
If anything changes, I will update.

Bjorn

[FILMNET]

All of my tomato seeds have germinated except Vince P1, Ambrosia which I got from Carolyn. Even the ground cherries which take 2-3 weeks easy.I statded 3-4 seed each, i will start the rest 2-3 again today

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by FILMNET

All of my tomato seeds have germinated except Vince P1, Ambrosia which I got from Carolyn. Even the ground cherries which take 2-3 weeks easy.I statded 3-4 seed each, i will start the rest 2-3 again today

I went back and checked the germination reports fir Vince P1, the number in front of each report indicates the post#.

10, 10/10 germinated
33, 23/25 "
37, 3/3 germinated
47, 50%
66, 66%
87, 8/8 germinated
98, 66%

So it lookes like the Vince P1 seeds are doing just fine.

For Red Ambrosia:

85, 0/6
87, 4/8

Seeds for both Vince P1 and Ambrosia Red were seeds produced in 2011 and as long has I see that at least 1-2 folks are getting the seeds up, I don't refer to them as problem seeds.

Once again showing the huge range for a paricular variety, as I've spoken to before here in this thread.

[FILMNET]

Thanks Carolyn i planted 4 more of each today in new starting dirt, Are you as dry In NY as we are here, the only river here has 45% water now.