Squash breeding project - Page 8

jmsieglaff · July 22, 2016

Now a series of pictures of F2W1. I am trying to show the branching and abundance of female flower production on this plant. It is a good viner, but not as long as F2W2, but with more branching.

jmsieglaff · July 22, 2016

Hey Brent,

Looking forward to your next update!

I haven't gotten round squash yet, maybe in the F2E plants. My F1s were all kinda pear shaped which is kinda oval like. Both yellows are oval. The seed squash is big and oval, should have more F3 than I'll know what to do with!

Are your rounds derived from round F1?

Justin

jmsieglaff · August 19, 2016

Great pictures Brent, thanks! I hope it is a tasty fruit! I've got F3 seed from my F2W1 plant (just harvested the fruit yesterday). My first fruit on the F2E1-4 is set and will be ready soon--if it is worthy of saving I might give it a try and see if I can get viable seed before frost.

jmsieglaff · August 29, 2016

I'm hoping to post a couple tomorrow! Been a crazy week or two!

jmsieglaff · August 30, 2016

Below are a few pics. First one is the wall F2W1-4 plants. They are all producing prolifically, a few harvested squash are on the ground. Then a closer shot of the vining and flowering habit. Lastly the F2E1-4 plants that we're just starting to get squash off of. I'm unsure how long it would take from pollination to mature seed (even with finishing indoors)--so I'm hoping I find something extra awesome in these plants but also not because I'm afraid I will not get mature seed prior to frost from the E1-4 plants.

PhilaGardener · September 17, 2016

Interested to hear how they taste! It could be easy to put that off too long if you are only selecting for form and color.

jmsieglaff · September 22, 2016

Glad to hear you've found you'll be following in 2017 Brent!

PhiaGardener. Of the F2 I grew this year I saved seed from one plant and will grow F3 from that plant (will share pics when I open the squash to harvest seed). I selected it for flavor. It was a good viner, but not quite as rambling as another plant, but it has a bit better flavor. What I liked about this one (F2W1) in addition to taste was early production and tremendous branching, with a high rate of female flower production on each branch. I did not get much from the late planting and nothing I wanted to risk trying to get from maturity. Next year I'll grow some F3 plants and probably more F2 as well.

My plants have tolerated powdery mildew quite well and are still prolifically producing, aided by our warm and wet September.

jmsieglaff · November 29, 2016

I'll share some pictures of my F2W1 fruit when I open it and save seeds. I didn't save seed from any other of the plants I grew. My parents grew some F2 seed and I have these from them. They were dark green when immature but develop an orange-green camouflage look to them when mature. So I'll save seeds from these and grow a plant or two next year. The flavor when eaten young according to my parents was fine, nothing great, a little bland. I'll try the mature flesh when I save seed. Pretty neat and kinda unique looking aren't they?

jmsieglaff · November 29, 2016

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Originally Posted by Brent M

Very cool looking fruit! What's your thoughts on which parent presented the pattern?

They are neat! I'd say that was something from Lemon, just a guess!

BigVanVader · November 29, 2016

Looks a little like Lambkin. Very cool!

jmsieglaff · November 30, 2016

And I guess Lemon, because this picture I found online shows the subtle character I've seen in Lemon squash

jmsieglaff · December 13, 2016

F3 seed is harvested! Debating between doing 2 F3 and 2F2 plants in my initial planting or just 4 F3 plants. My late planting is always iffy for maturing seeds since those follow my sugar snap peas. Maybe if I start them in Cow pots a bit earlier that would help.

Keen101 · January 4, 2017

nice project!

I'm thinking about starting my own odd cross. I'd like to cross a white acorn squash with yellow crookedneck squash. I will need to backcross once or twice at some point to recover the bumpy crookedneck growth, but i want the white color. I want a white croockedneck squash. Not sure why, i just do.

jmsieglaff · January 4, 2017

Thanks! Good luck with your project, crossing squash couldn't be easier!

PhilaGardener · July 1, 2017

Interesting! How large are the squash? From perspective, I'm guessing maybe half dollar size? Do you plan to select/breed for a larger size?

July 22, 2016	#107
jmsieglaff Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern WI Posts: 2,742	Hey Brent, Looking forward to your next update! I haven't gotten round squash yet, maybe in the F2E plants. My F1s were all kinda pear shaped which is kinda oval like. Both yellows are oval. The seed squash is big and oval, should have more F3 than I'll know what to do with! Are your rounds derived from round F1? Justin Last edited by jmsieglaff; July 22, 2016 at 10:34 PM.

August 19, 2016	#108
jmsieglaff Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern WI Posts: 2,742	Great pictures Brent, thanks! I hope it is a tasty fruit! I've got F3 seed from my F2W1 plant (just harvested the fruit yesterday). My first fruit on the F2E1-4 is set and will be ready soon--if it is worthy of saving I might give it a try and see if I can get viable seed before frost.

August 29, 2016	#109
jmsieglaff Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern WI Posts: 2,742	I'm hoping to post a couple tomorrow! Been a crazy week or two!

September 17, 2016	#111
PhilaGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,940	Interested to hear how they taste! It could be easy to put that off too long if you are only selecting for form and color.

September 22, 2016	#112
jmsieglaff Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern WI Posts: 2,742	Glad to hear you've found you'll be following in 2017 Brent! PhiaGardener. Of the F2 I grew this year I saved seed from one plant and will grow F3 from that plant (will share pics when I open the squash to harvest seed). I selected it for flavor. It was a good viner, but not quite as rambling as another plant, but it has a bit better flavor. What I liked about this one (F2W1) in addition to taste was early production and tremendous branching, with a high rate of female flower production on each branch. I did not get much from the late planting and nothing I wanted to risk trying to get from maturity. Next year I'll grow some F3 plants and probably more F2 as well. My plants have tolerated powdery mildew quite well and are still prolifically producing, aided by our warm and wet September.

November 29, 2016	#115
BigVanVader Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 3,099	Looks a little like Lambkin. Very cool!

November 30, 2016	#116
jmsieglaff Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern WI Posts: 2,742	And I guess Lemon, because this picture I found online shows the subtle character I've seen in Lemon squash

January 4, 2017	#118
Keen101 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Colorado Posts: 134	nice project! I'm thinking about starting my own odd cross. I'd like to cross a white acorn squash with yellow crookedneck squash. I will need to backcross once or twice at some point to recover the bumpy crookedneck growth, but i want the white color. I want a white croockedneck squash. Not sure why, i just do.

January 4, 2017	#119
jmsieglaff Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern WI Posts: 2,742	Thanks! Good luck with your project, crossing squash couldn't be easier!

July 1, 2017	#120
PhilaGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,940	Interesting! How large are the squash? From perspective, I'm guessing maybe half dollar size? Do you plan to select/breed for a larger size?