Anatolian Heirloom Seeds Recovery Project (ANATOHUM) - Page 8

chancethegardener · July 28, 2013

Thanks for your contribution lakelady. Could you please post come pictures when it is possible?

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Originally Posted by lakelady

Hi Chance,

My peppers are doing pretty well, but I have not had time to do much gardening this summer with my new job. Will post some pics as soon as I can. Corbaci looks terrific and are now orange and turning red !

chancethegardener · July 28, 2013

Dear Project Volunteers,

I receive many offers from you for sending me seeds back for the varieties which I released/offered. I very much appreciate this offer. Thank you very very much for your kindness; however, I also have an heirloom seed business going on and I may offer certain varieties in my business' seed catalog for sale.

The business is based upon offering rare heirloom seeds. Yes my collection will primarily include Near Asian (Turkish) and some Middle Asian and Eastern European varieties; however, as I come across new varieties from other parts of the world, I will also grow them out and (I will or will not) include them in my catalog. For example, this fall, I will grow a plum-shaped Italian cherry variety that had been bought on a Farmer's Market in Italy (unfortunately couldn't obtain information on the locality since the seeds were sent to me by someone who hadn't originally extracted the seeds).

While the business funds the project, it is not built upon the project. On the other hand, many people can naturally make a direct association between the two. I wouldn't like to make the impression that I am using the project and abusing the volunteers to build my seed stock up for the business. I will only kindly request seeds for a project variety in case something happens to my original batch of seeds so that I can propagate seeds for them again. Other than some staple varieties, I can't and won't grow every variety I release every year so once I send seeds out for a variety, I most probably won't make another round (there may be exceptions). I would like to thank all volunteers for their contribution to the project.

PS: If you have sample amount of seeds for a Turkish variety that is new to me and would like to share them with me, I would gladly accept them to grow out for the project and possibly for the business catalog.

If you have sample amount of seeds for a non-Turkish variety that is not offered elsewhere and would like to share them with me, I would again gladly accept them to grow out for the business

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chancethegardener · August 10, 2013

Dear ANATOHUM Project Volunteers,

Any additional feedback regarding the project grow-outs will be much appreciated

. Did anyone grow Kirkagac 589?

Patti1957 · August 10, 2013

I am growing it. They are not ripe yet but some of them are sure getting big. I am also growing Kandil, Corbaci and Mehmet's peppers. I have a few pictures but not sure where you want them posted? I will be taking more pictures soon so will probably wait to get them posted.

chancethegardener · August 10, 2013

This is great! Feel free to post your pictures here. I see that you are also a member of the project page so you can post them on the relevant variety thread there, too.

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Originally Posted by Patti1957

I am growing it. They are not ripe yet but some of them are sure getting big. I am also growing Kandil, Corbaci and Mehmet's peppers. I have a few pictures but not sure where you want them posted? I will be taking more pictures soon so will probably wait to get them posted.

Mandy97 · August 11, 2013

I am growing the Mehmet's Sweet Turkish and the Corbaci peppers in my garden. They had great germination rates (close to 100%) and the Corbaci pepper is covered in peppers. The Sweet Turkish is not, but it was in a spot that was more shady than I anticipated. It still has a couple though - enough to save seed. I'll take pictures before I harvest.

Thank you for sharing!

Mandy

Redbaron · August 11, 2013

I am growing a tomato called Turkish Ayla. It is doing good but no ripe fruit yet. Also 2 peppers. They got killed by the frost and I had to replant stupidly late. Plants then got attacked by insects, flooded, and every other sort of calamity. But those two Turkish peppers did survive. Still no fruit yet. A few blossoms. The best news is Kirkagac Melon. That is potentially a show stopper! Now I just need to know when it is ripe. I can tell when a musk melon is ripe. I can tell when a watermelon is ripe. But I haven't the slightest idea with Kirkagac Melon.

Here is a pic.

Kirkagac Melon.jpg

chancethegardener · August 11, 2013

Kirkagac 589 is a Casaba-type melon and it comes from the homeland of Casaba-melons, Western Turkey. It won't slip off the vine. Its rind will turn a beautiful yellow color, spots on the yellow background will become more apparent and darker, when it is ready to harvest. Also, at this stage, rind will possibly start cracking (these early cracks won't hurt the fruit) close to the vine and blossom end.

Two main Kirkagac strains are 589 and 637. The seeds you are growing are supposed to belong 589, and fruits of this strain are elongated. Is the fruit in the picture round?

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Originally Posted by Redbaron

I am growing a tomato called Turkish Ayla. It is doing good but no ripe fruit yet. Also 2 peppers. They got killed by the frost and I had to replant stupidly late. Plants then got attacked by insects, flooded, and every other sort of calamity. But those two Turkish peppers did survive. Still no fruit yet. A few blossoms. The best news is Kirkagac Melon. That is potentially a show stopper! Now I just need to know when it is ripe. I can tell when a musk melon is ripe. I can tell when a watermelon is ripe. But I haven't the slightest idea with Kirkagac Melon.

Here is a pic.

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chancethegardener · August 11, 2013

Thanks, Mandy. I look forward to it

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Originally Posted by Mandy97

I am growing the Mehmet's Sweet Turkish and the Corbaci peppers in my garden. They had great germination rates (close to 100%) and the Corbaci pepper is covered in peppers. The Sweet Turkish is not, but it was in a spot that was more shady than I anticipated. It still has a couple though - enough to save seed. I'll take pictures before I harvest.

Thank you for sharing!

Mandy

chancethegardener · August 11, 2013

Also, if you are a member of the project page, I would be happy if you can post your pictures in the corresponding thread. Preferably, I would like to see all the results from different climatic conditions in one database.

Redbaron · August 11, 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by chancethegardener

Kirkagac 589 is a Casaba-type melon and it comes from the homeland of Casaba-melons, Western Turkey. It won't slip off the vine. Its rind will turn a beautiful yellow color, spots on the yellow background will become more apparent and darker, when it is ready to harvest. Also, at this stage, rind will possibly start cracking (these early cracks won't hurt the fruit) close to the vine and blossom end.

Two main Kirkagac strains are 589 and 637. The seeds you are growing are supposed to belong 589, and fruits of this strain are elongated. Is the fruit in the picture round?

The fruit is roundish now yes. But it was for a long time elongated and more wrinkly. But after this last rain it swelled right up like a balloon and is now pretty much round.

Whether it stays more round or goes back to elongated I am totally clueless. This is the first time growing it or any other Casaba type melon.

PS I would post pics on the project page but I have no way to do it, no upload wizard. I don't even have a profile page to change my passcode. I keep forgetting it so when I loose the old one after a while when it asks for passcode I have to get a new one!

dinca · August 13, 2013

I received seeds of Kandil Bell Pepper and Corbaci Pepper. I planted 4 seeds of each and one of each germinated. I planted the seedlings in containers. Corbaci did not flourish and slowly withered away. Kandil Bell has a profusion of fruit in various stages of coloration and shapes. The fruit is brightly colored but small. It would be a thin fleshed salad pepper and I suppose it could be used for pickling, but a stuffer it is not. I'll grow again it as a novelty and for salads.

Plant20130811-KandilBell.jpg

Fruit20130811-KandilBell-2.jpg

chancethegardener · August 13, 2013

Hi dinca,

Thanks much for the pictures. I will look into a different source of seeds to see if the fruits will be more regularly-shaped.

This is indeed a stuffer for Turkish traditional cuisine, very old variety. I mean this is one of the most-used bell pepper varieties in the cuisine.

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Originally Posted by dinca

I received seeds of Kandil Bell Pepper and Corbaci Pepper. I planted 4 seeds of each and one of each germinated. I planted the seedlings in containers. Corbaci did not flourish and slowly withered away. Kandil Bell has a profusion of fruit in various stages of coloration and shapes. The fruit is brightly colored but small. It would be a thin fleshed salad pepper and I suppose it could be used for pickling, but a stuffer it is not. I'll grow again it as a novelty and for salads.

PlantAttachment 37821

FruitAttachment 37822

Patti1957 · October 26, 2013

I believe I was given 10 seeds and 9 germinated. I had two different shapes of fruit. The picture shows both. They were very good flavor, like a honeydew. Very productive plants.

Patti1957 · October 26, 2013

Couple more pictures of Kirkigac 589

August 10, 2013	#108
chancethegardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: WV Posts: 604	Dear ANATOHUM Project Volunteers, Any additional feedback regarding the project grow-outs will be much appreciated. Did anyone grow Kirkagac 589?

August 11, 2013	#112
Redbaron Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 4,488	I am growing a tomato called Turkish Ayla. It is doing good but no ripe fruit yet. Also 2 peppers. They got killed by the frost and I had to replant stupidly late. Plants then got attacked by insects, flooded, and every other sort of calamity. But those two Turkish peppers did survive. Still no fruit yet. A few blossoms. The best news is Kirkagac Melon. That is potentially a show stopper! Now I just need to know when it is ripe. I can tell when a musk melon is ripe. I can tell when a watermelon is ripe. But I haven't the slightest idea with Kirkagac Melon. Here is a pic. Kirkagac Melon.jpg __________________ Scott AKA The Redbaron "Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system." Bill Mollison co-founder of permaculture Last edited by Redbaron; August 11, 2013 at 01:06 PM.

August 13, 2013	#117
dinca Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Posts: 269	KANDIL BELL PEPPER I received seeds of Kandil Bell Pepper and Corbaci Pepper. I planted 4 seeds of each and one of each germinated. I planted the seedlings in containers. Corbaci did not flourish and slowly withered away. Kandil Bell has a profusion of fruit in various stages of coloration and shapes. The fruit is brightly colored but small. It would be a thin fleshed salad pepper and I suppose it could be used for pickling, but a stuffer it is not. I'll grow again it as a novelty and for salads. Plant20130811-KandilBell.jpg Fruit20130811-KandilBell-2.jpg Last edited by dinca; August 13, 2013 at 02:58 AM. Reason: Add Photos and Text

October 26, 2013	#119
Patti1957 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eagle Point, Oregon Posts: 30	Kirkagac 589 I believe I was given 10 seeds and 9 germinated. I had two different shapes of fruit. The picture shows both. They were very good flavor, like a honeydew. Very productive plants. Last edited by Patti1957; October 26, 2013 at 05:00 PM.

July 28, 2013	#107
chancethegardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: WV Posts: 604	Dear Project Volunteers, I receive many offers from you for sending me seeds back for the varieties which I released/offered. I very much appreciate this offer. Thank you very very much for your kindness; however, I also have an heirloom seed business going on and I may offer certain varieties in my business' seed catalog for sale. The business is based upon offering rare heirloom seeds. Yes my collection will primarily include Near Asian (Turkish) and some Middle Asian and Eastern European varieties; however, as I come across new varieties from other parts of the world, I will also grow them out and (I will or will not) include them in my catalog. For example, this fall, I will grow a plum-shaped Italian cherry variety that had been bought on a Farmer's Market in Italy (unfortunately couldn't obtain information on the locality since the seeds were sent to me by someone who hadn't originally extracted the seeds). While the business funds the project, it is not built upon the project. On the other hand, many people can naturally make a direct association between the two. I wouldn't like to make the impression that I am using the project and abusing the volunteers to build my seed stock up for the business. I will only kindly request seeds for a project variety in case something happens to my original batch of seeds so that I can propagate seeds for them again. Other than some staple varieties, I can't and won't grow every variety I release every year so once I send seeds out for a variety, I most probably won't make another round (there may be exceptions). I would like to thank all volunteers for their contribution to the project. PS: If you have sample amount of seeds for a Turkish variety that is new to me and would like to share them with me, I would gladly accept them to grow out for the project and possibly for the business catalog. If you have sample amount of seeds for a non-Turkish variety that is not offered elsewhere and would like to share them with me, I would again gladly accept them to grow out for the business .

August 10, 2013	#109
Patti1957 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eagle Point, Oregon Posts: 30	I am growing it. They are not ripe yet but some of them are sure getting big. I am also growing Kandil, Corbaci and Mehmet's peppers. I have a few pictures but not sure where you want them posted? I will be taking more pictures soon so will probably wait to get them posted.

August 11, 2013	#111
Mandy97 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Paw Paw MI Posts: 89	I am growing the Mehmet's Sweet Turkish and the Corbaci peppers in my garden. They had great germination rates (close to 100%) and the Corbaci pepper is covered in peppers. The Sweet Turkish is not, but it was in a spot that was more shady than I anticipated. It still has a couple though - enough to save seed. I'll take pictures before I harvest. Thank you for sharing! Mandy

August 11, 2013	#115
chancethegardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: WV Posts: 604	Also, if you are a member of the project page, I would be happy if you can post your pictures in the corresponding thread. Preferably, I would like to see all the results from different climatic conditions in one database.

October 26, 2013	#120
Patti1957 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eagle Point, Oregon Posts: 30	Couple more pictures of Kirkigac 589