Marijuana

[kurt]

Originally Posted by kayrobbins

I have been following this thread very closely. I am on a very strong chemo and the side effects from it are so much worse than the cancer. We finally got medical marijuana legalized in Florida but they are doing everything they can to make it difficult. My oncologist could not prescribe it. I would have to go to one of the Drs allowed to prescribe it for 3 months before I could get a prescription. The ones approved in my town are pill mill type docs. They also do have any of the dispensaries up and running yet. I only have 5 more chemo treatments before surgery so if I wanted to get a legal prescription I could not get it in time to help. Some other counties have passed laws delaying it being available for another year.

It is just an herb but one that has strong medicinal properties. I find it so frustrating that where you live determines if you can get something that would help.

On the Viceland online option you can pull up archives of what you are commenting.There are real life testimonials from young children to adults regarding the low CBD cannabis attributes.

[Durgan]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...rugs-1.3958336
Legalizing all drugs would be good for Canada, according to Toronto Liberal MP

Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, Liberal MP, says drug use should be treated as a health matter, not a criminal matter
He added that he fully supports the government's approach to legalizing marijuana. At this time, possessing and selling marijuana for non-medical purposes is still illegal everywhere in Canada. But the Trudeau government has said it will introduce legislation to legalize it this spring.

In 2001, Portugal decriminalized small possession and use of all drugs. Erskine-Smith says the change led to a decrease in teen drug use, drug overdoses and deaths, and criminal penalties dropped by 60 per cent.

[Worth1]

The whole drug testing policy was started because of illegal drug use and they test for illegal drugs.
Any paper work I signed for was just for illegal drugs.
This includes me taking drugs from someone else without a prescription like a pain pill.
If the drug isn't illegal what is the problem it shouldn't be on the list.
It doesn't fall under the list of illegal drugs anymore.
The sad fact of the matter is I could be as drunk as a skunk get called in for a drug test pass it and go back to work.
A urine test is an outdated knee jerk reaction from the 80's.
It doesn't prove you are incapacitated in any way.
Then there is the hair test and toenail test.

You wreck a school bus and you take one of these tests.
You fail because of smoking a joint 5 days ago.
They say you were on pot and that was the reason for the wreck.
You get hurt on the job same thing.
Another one UT requires any contractor to take a drug test.
You dont have to pass it you just have to take a drug test.
I heard this the other day.
But your company will sure fire you.
Nation wide legality isn't going to happen any time soon I can promise you that.

Things might just go the other way.

Worth

[kayrobbins]

First, I want to thank of all of you for your words of support it means so much to me.

I agree that many of laws seems to be for the protection of drug companies that profit from keeping Americans popping pills as much as they can. If you watch television very much you soon realize a pill for everything and I imagine doctors must get tired of people coming in asking for prescriptions for the latest drug they have seen advertised. When I had my first chemo I left with prescriptions for Xanax and Hydrocodon. Because I live alone we did stop and fill them even though I did not plan on using them. I was able to tough it out with having to use them.

Before this had any impact for me, I watched all the documentation on children that suffer from uncontrollable seizures that could be helped with a low THC cannabis. I could not believe how long it took to get this available to these children. Any lawmaker that saw what they went through and still delayed making this legal does not have a soul.

[wildcat62]

Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

Kay, I am sorry to read what you've been going through.

I agree with DM. and +2 Worth.

Same here

Kay, hoping you find comfort & healing.

DM, Worth & Salt +++

[Worth1]

Recreational drug use is illegal.
Could the so called ED drugs they advertise on TV be considered recreational.
Just saying.
Worth

[Father'sDaughter]

I have no use for MJ myself, but if I knew someone going through what Kay is going through, I would gladly grow and gift them the legal amount allowable.

[AlittleSalt]

I am experiencing an extremely painful night. I'll try to correct typos along the way. As I've written many times here, I live with RSD type 2 nerve disease and anxiety attacks. I have learned how to deal with both - to a point.

The topic is about growing marijuana, but it has turned more about the usage. Could MJ help people - yes, I've read it does help.

I have watched over 50 years that some people become so addicted that they no longer care to do anything other than what things they have to do. We gave the neighbors a couch/sofa that is in good condition. All they had to do was move their broken down sofa outside and move the new sofa in - = instant improvement. That was a week ago. I even offered help in getting rid of the old couch and moving in the new one - it's only 2 years old.

I know, some people are just lazy. But those neighbors make me wonder - if I were to smoke medical MJ - would I become the same way?

As I started this reply, I am in extreme pain tonight, but that's because I prepared an onion bed that was covered in 30+ contractor's wheelbarrows of oak leaves, mulch mowed leaves, tilled, fertilized, and planted three 35' rows of onions. I am proud of that. I pushed myself to an extreme. I will pay for it for many days in pain that I hope none of you ever have to experience, maybe that's when medical MJ would help?

I don't know - the last time I smoked it was in my early 20s. I didn't find anything recreational about it.

Yeah, this one falls I the, "Should I post this or not" category. This one is a Yes

[dmforcier]

MaryJane is non-addictive. You won't build a tolerance for it.** Nor will you turn into a fiend as the reefer smokers in Reefer Madness.

Now how do some people become constant users? imp might be a better one to ask than I given her profession (no, it's not bouncing), but as I understand it, some people are "naturally addictive personalities". Kinda like OCD. Maybe as many as 10% will use or do something with such frequency that it approximates an addiction, even though the thing that they use or do is not intrinsically addictive. These people can become "addicted" to Diet Pepsi, or showering.

And some people are just wastes of meat.

IMO, you can try the weed to see if it helps. If it makes you feel better, you will want to use it again. If it doesn't, you won't.

And if you start seeing colors, confront the seller.

** To the contrary, folk wisdom has it that the first time you smoke, you won't get anything from it. Can't testify because those days are lost in the deeps of time.

[dmforcier]

Congrats on the accomplishments in the garden! We sure have been having the weather for it.

[Durgan]

Ingesting Marijuana. Get it right and educate yourself. It is all available how on the internet.

How to Decarboxylate Cannabis
How to decarboxylate your cannabis before cooking with it. Dry small pieces of marijuana for 40 minutes at 240F in oven http://herb.co/decarboxylation/ Explanation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYEQaTG0WX8 Video of the decarboxylate
procedure

CannaButter In 7 Easy Steps! http://www.420magazine.com/forums/ca...asy-steps.html
If your looking to make some special treats, Cannabutter is a vital ingredient. The process of making cannabutter is basically just melting butter with marijuana, Straining the marijuana And then re-solidifying the butter. This works because THC (the chemical in marijuana that gets you “high”) sticks to the fat cells in butter. Cannabutter can be used in any recipe that calls for butter or oil.

[AlittleSalt]

Thanks DM. I've asked myself those questions countless times.

Opioids did not control the nerve pain as all the doctors, pain specialists, and surgeons told me they would. They even prescribed morphine, but my body rejected it. That's why I don't take pain meds.

[dmforcier]

Marijahookey is not a pain med, per se, and doesn't act anything like an opioid. Frankly, I find it difficult to imagine what the subjective effect might be, but it if works, it works.


(Hmmp. Makes me think of nitrous oxide (laughing gas). I've had significant dosages for dental work, notably wisdom teeth. My molars have such extensive roots that they can't get a whole tooth on an x-ray slide. So wisdom teeth extraction was no small matter. Nitrous oxide did the trick, though, but in an odd way. I remember concluding that I still felt the pain -- I just didn't care.)

[Cole_Robbie]

Smoking, versus eating an edible, is a very different buzz. Some people much prefer one over the other.

Countering the ugly side effects of chemotherapy on cancer patients is the most dramatic medical effect of weed that I have seen. CBD oils are also the only thing that stop certain epileptic kids from having frequent seizures.

[bower]

The hypocrisy about "approved" medicines is astounding. Not only pain meds, but countless other drugs are "addictive", in the sense you need a doctor's assistance to stop taking them without serious consequences, also cause permanent cumulative damage to your organs or produce disease conditions such as diabetes, and many have side effects that also constitute "impairment" when driving a vehicle operating machines etc. The examples I know of from caring for aging parents, and seeing what they've gone through. My mom for example was put on beta-blockers for awhile but finally persuaded the doctor to get her off them. She swears she can barely remember half of what was going on, due to the impairment side effects of those drugs. Even the statins had a bad effect on her, to the point where a few years ago I really thought she would soon lose her drivers license. I didn't realize that it was the statin side effects until she gave them up - what a difference. Her driving improved dramatically - and I mean, not running over curbs with abandon, nor turning into the wrong/oncoming lane at an intersection .. . Her quality of life has also really improved since she gave them up - (and reduced my risk of heart attack too when back seat driving!)

But you will never hear public concern about drivers on medications for heart condition, blood pressure, or any number of other things where impairment is a known side effect. For example:
http://acsh.org/news/2015/12/04/cdc-...are-on-statins
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...s/art-20046013 scroll down to read about memory loss and confusion or "mental fuzziness".
And the FDA consumer update says:
Reports of Memory Loss

FDA has been investigating reports of cognitive impairment from statin use for several years. The agency has reviewed databases that record reports of bad reactions to drugs and statin clinical trials that included assessments of cognitive function.
The reports about memory loss, forgetfulness and confusion span all statin products and all age groups. Egan says these experiences are rare but that those affected often report feeling “fuzzy” or unfocused in their thinking.
In general, the symptoms were not serious and were reversible within a few weeks after the patient stopped using the statin. Some people affected in this way had been taking the medicine for a day; others had been taking it for years.
What should patients do if they fear that statin use could be clouding their thinking? “Talk to your health care professional,” Egan says. “Don’t stop taking the medication; the consequences to your heart could be far greater.”
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm293330.htm


What bothers me, they don't even mention that safety concerns could arise from these side effects, when you're driving or operating machines.
This is just one example, there are many more.
So it makes no sense to me, to single out marijuana as a risk, when people impaired by their prescription meds are not even cautioned to be responsible and to use some kind of reasonable self-assessment before they decide to drive. We need a responsible adult culture, to turn down the drive for impairment by ANY cause even as simple as did not get enough sleep last night.

Likewise the fear mongering about negative health effects of mj is hypocrisy at its finest, go read the warnings on any drug instruction sheet.