J&L Gardens - Page 9

goodwin · December 26, 2016

Hi Carolyn,

Thank you for taking the time to share that information. As I said, I got my seed from Dmitry Shlomin, who is a wonderful source of seed and stories, but didn't know anyone else who had grown it. However, the plants were productive, as usual, and the beaked fruits were popular at the market. I wouldn't describe 'Golden Canary' as a paste tomato. It is more a salad type. There is another variety from Russia, Buratino, which is similar in shape, but orange in color.

I don't see it grown much either, though it is a good one. I hope you are having a good holiday and staying warm!
Lee

Labradors2 · January 2, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodwin

Merry Christmas everyone! The mountains here look like a Christmas card and it is almost time to think about the new season.
Our catalog is out and we added a bunch of new tomatoes, peppers, and corn. There are over 300 varieties now, all raised on our farm. So much for retirement! The 2017 catalog can be found on the farm web page.
As always, if anyone here would like a sample of something, all you have to do is ask. Jan and I hope all of you are enjoying being with friends and family and wish you the very best.
Lee

Lee,

I think you should make some tomato Christmas cards! I'm sure lots of tomatoville members would be keen to buy them

.

Linda

TC_Manhattan · January 2, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Labradors2

Lee,

I think you should make some tomato Christmas cards! I'm sure lots of tomatoville members would be keen to buy them

.

Linda

This is an awesome suggestion.
I for sure would order some!

goodwin · January 3, 2017

You know, that would be fun. Next week I start my first flats of tomatoes and peppers. However, I have a little time until then and before the seed orders begin to really pour in. I could include a greeting card with the seeds - not a bad idea.
A late but Happy New Year to you all!

Lee

MarinaRussian · March 22, 2017

Lee, could you please tell me the parentage of Wild Tiger and who is the originator? Thank you

goodwin · March 22, 2017

Hello,

I'm the originator and the history is somewhat complicated. Danube and Wild Tiger are selections from a cross of a tomato I had called Dark Tiger and one of the Ambrosia lines. The Ambrosia lines came from grow outs of SunGold later crossed to a wild species. (as is documented somewhere here)
Dark Tiger is from Green Zebra ( a Tom Wagner tomato) and my Bosque Blue.
That mixture gives rise to the unusual color and the streaking of green in the flesh of the tomato.
Thank you for asking. It is always enjoyable to talk about tomatoes and I don't get here as much as I would like.
Lee

MarinaRussian · March 22, 2017

Thank you so much, Lee!!! Because a few of my friends and I have seeds of Wild Tiger from different sources. And there's also a range of pictures - stripes, anthos, pastes and hearts. So we're all trying to figure out if we have different tomatoes with the same name or if the Wild Tiger is still unstable.

goodwin · March 22, 2017

There must be some other tomatoes with the same name. The only variation I have seen in 3 years of maintaining Wild Tiger is a slight difference in shape. Some are fatter and some more pointed. That is the reason I still list it as a trial variety. I have only grown 6-8 plants the last couple of years. This season I started 12 plants and perhaps I should plant them all just to check.

Lee

MarinaRussian · March 24, 2017

Oh boy, am I anxious to see what we all get

gill_s · July 17, 2017

Has anyone grown Vincent's White and found it not to be as expected?
I had 3 seedlings, one of which was potato leafed, the other 2 being rgular leafed.
I grew on the potato leafed plant. It was very productive but the tomatoes did not resemble the picture or description on the website. Thy are bright yellow and smaller, weighing at about 4oz.
I am sure hat i did not mix up my seedlings because I am growing nothing similar.
Gill

Salsacharley · July 17, 2017

I grew Vincent's White for 2015 and 2016 and they were consistent pale yellow beefsteaks. They were RL. They weren't giant but they weren't small either. I'd guess they averaged about 6 to 8 oz. I think Lee puts out good stuff, some of which might be a bit unsettled but overall I like J & L a lot. His Ambrosia lines are killer for me. I also really like Dark Tiger and Wild Tiger. I don't know what the lineage of Vincent's White is but I love the story behind it.

Nan_PA_6b · July 26, 2017

Goodwin,

Today I tried to access the catalog www.jandlgardens.com/catalog/ and got a message saying I had to install something called Zen Cart before I could go any further. I've shopped there before without having to download anything. It seemed a little suspicious to me.

So I tried to email you. I hit the "contact us" button and my email opened up but the compose message had only "index.html" in the address field. So I can't access the catalog and I can't email you and some program wants me to download something. I'm not downloading anything without more information. Did you get hijacked?

I posted this in General Discussion and Bipetual said the same thing happened to him/her.

Nan

Nan

Bipetual · July 27, 2017

Lee, we can't see your catalog. Hope everything's okay!

Lasairfion · July 28, 2017

That's the setup page for his shopping cart programme. Essentially something has gone wrong with the catalogue page of his site, and it is pointing at an administration setup page instead.

The main site front page is still up at http://www.jandlgardens.com/ but we'll have to wait until he fixes his shopping cart. If you want to see their products, perhaps try using the Ebay and Bonanza links on that front page.

Salsacharley · July 28, 2017

I just spoke with Lee on the phone and he is aware of the problem with his site, but he's got so much going on right now that he won't be able to get it straightened out for a couple more days. He's got huge amounts of ripe produce to harvest by himself for this weekend so he has to deal with that first. He wants everybody to know that he appreciates the concern and is sorry for the delay.

December 26, 2016	#121
goodwin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Espanola, New Mexico Posts: 606	Hi Carolyn, Thank you for taking the time to share that information. As I said, I got my seed from Dmitry Shlomin, who is a wonderful source of seed and stories, but didn't know anyone else who had grown it. However, the plants were productive, as usual, and the beaked fruits were popular at the market. I wouldn't describe 'Golden Canary' as a paste tomato. It is more a salad type. There is another variety from Russia, Buratino, which is similar in shape, but orange in color. I don't see it grown much either, though it is a good one. I hope you are having a good holiday and staying warm! Lee

January 3, 2017	#124
goodwin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Espanola, New Mexico Posts: 606	You know, that would be fun. Next week I start my first flats of tomatoes and peppers. However, I have a little time until then and before the seed orders begin to really pour in. I could include a greeting card with the seeds - not a bad idea. A late but Happy New Year to you all! Lee

March 22, 2017	#125
MarinaRussian Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Russia Posts: 176	Lee, could you please tell me the parentage of Wild Tiger and who is the originator? Thank you

March 22, 2017	#126
goodwin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Espanola, New Mexico Posts: 606	Hello, I'm the originator and the history is somewhat complicated. Danube and Wild Tiger are selections from a cross of a tomato I had called Dark Tiger and one of the Ambrosia lines. The Ambrosia lines came from grow outs of SunGold later crossed to a wild species. (as is documented somewhere here) Dark Tiger is from Green Zebra ( a Tom Wagner tomato) and my Bosque Blue. That mixture gives rise to the unusual color and the streaking of green in the flesh of the tomato. Thank you for asking. It is always enjoyable to talk about tomatoes and I don't get here as much as I would like. Lee

March 22, 2017	#127
MarinaRussian Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Russia Posts: 176	Thank you so much, Lee!!! Because a few of my friends and I have seeds of Wild Tiger from different sources. And there's also a range of pictures - stripes, anthos, pastes and hearts. So we're all trying to figure out if we have different tomatoes with the same name or if the Wild Tiger is still unstable.

March 22, 2017	#128
goodwin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Espanola, New Mexico Posts: 606	There must be some other tomatoes with the same name. The only variation I have seen in 3 years of maintaining Wild Tiger is a slight difference in shape. Some are fatter and some more pointed. That is the reason I still list it as a trial variety. I have only grown 6-8 plants the last couple of years. This season I started 12 plants and perhaps I should plant them all just to check. Lee

March 24, 2017	#129
MarinaRussian Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Russia Posts: 176	Oh boy, am I anxious to see what we all get

July 17, 2017	#130
gill_s Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 180	Has anyone grown Vincent's White and found it not to be as expected? I had 3 seedlings, one of which was potato leafed, the other 2 being rgular leafed. I grew on the potato leafed plant. It was very productive but the tomatoes did not resemble the picture or description on the website. Thy are bright yellow and smaller, weighing at about 4oz. I am sure hat i did not mix up my seedlings because I am growing nothing similar. Gill

July 17, 2017	#131
Salsacharley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: New Mexico Posts: 2,052	I grew Vincent's White for 2015 and 2016 and they were consistent pale yellow beefsteaks. They were RL. They weren't giant but they weren't small either. I'd guess they averaged about 6 to 8 oz. I think Lee puts out good stuff, some of which might be a bit unsettled but overall I like J & L a lot. His Ambrosia lines are killer for me. I also really like Dark Tiger and Wild Tiger. I don't know what the lineage of Vincent's White is but I love the story behind it.

July 26, 2017	#132
Nan_PA_6b Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,194	Goodwin, Today I tried to access the catalog www.jandlgardens.com/catalog/ and got a message saying I had to install something called Zen Cart before I could go any further. I've shopped there before without having to download anything. It seemed a little suspicious to me. So I tried to email you. I hit the "contact us" button and my email opened up but the compose message had only "index.html" in the address field. So I can't access the catalog and I can't email you and some program wants me to download something. I'm not downloading anything without more information. Did you get hijacked? I posted this in General Discussion and Bipetual said the same thing happened to him/her. Nan Nan

July 27, 2017	#133
Bipetual Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Illinois, zone 5a Posts: 579	Lee, we can't see your catalog. Hope everything's okay!

July 28, 2017	#134
Lasairfion Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: UK Posts: 82	That's the setup page for his shopping cart programme. Essentially something has gone wrong with the catalogue page of his site, and it is pointing at an administration setup page instead. The main site front page is still up at http://www.jandlgardens.com/ but we'll have to wait until he fixes his shopping cart. If you want to see their products, perhaps try using the Ebay and Bonanza links on that front page.

July 28, 2017	#135
Salsacharley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: New Mexico Posts: 2,052	I just spoke with Lee on the phone and he is aware of the problem with his site, but he's got so much going on right now that he won't be able to get it straightened out for a couple more days. He's got huge amounts of ripe produce to harvest by himself for this weekend so he has to deal with that first. He wants everybody to know that he appreciates the concern and is sorry for the delay.