North Texans are you planting out this weekend? - Page 9

Worth1 · March 30, 2015

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Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

We have a stainless water bath - a really big one.

Presto, Which is better aluminum or stainless?

I had no idea presto made a stainless one.
Aluminum is fine.
Water bath wont do you any good for fresh produce that is low acid.

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Worth1 · March 30, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

We have a stainless water bath - a really big one.

Presto, Which is better aluminum or stainless?

I had no idea presto made a stainless one.
Aluminum is fine.
Water bath wont do you any good for fresh produce that is low acid.

Wall Mart free shipping $88 dollars for the 23 Quart one with a weight and gauge.

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creister · April 3, 2015

Scissor tail flycatchers have returned and mesquite are starting to put out leaves, so no more frosts! Hopefully!

April 3, 2015

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Originally Posted by creister

Scissor tail flycatchers have returned and mesquite are starting to put out leaves, so no more frosts! Hopefully!

Save some mesquite beans and allow them to dry. After drying, pulverize them and make some cookies with them. They are 30 percent sugar.

Ted

decherdt · April 3, 2015

What about hummingbirds, anybody seen hummingbirds?. It hasn't barely dipped into the 40's here since Dwayne said go. Tomatoes have really responded. The biggest of the starts I put out on the 15th really has put on 2 ft in 4 weeks.

creister · April 3, 2015

I don't usually see the humming birds until later, May if I recall correctly.

April 3, 2015

Sorry, double post!
Ted

AlittleSalt · April 3, 2015

I am making some hummingbird food today. Yesterday, I was watering in some seed when this mini-helicopter sounding buzzzzz approached. I didn't see it, but yeah, a hummingbird. They're as bad as the cats...feed me - feed me - feed me.

OzoneNY · April 13, 2015

where do Texans get their soil tested?

Who did your soil test and how did you like the service?

I think I need to get mine looked at/

decherdt · April 13, 2015

The county Ag extension office sent me the standard report application, and had the tomato patch soil tested. Later I found this Urban and Homeowner version
http://soiltesting.tamu.edu/files/urbansoil.pdf

After nearly a decade of belt and suspenders 80% organic plus 80% synthetic fertilizers, I was concerned about salinity and had the routine + salinity done. Far as I can tell salinity is OK but I'm "on the wagon" for P and K.

Dewayne mater · April 13, 2015

So did you basically not add anything to your soil except nitrogen? Thanks for the info. Been thinking of doing that myself, but haven't yet. Do you remember how long it took to get results?

DM

decherdt · April 13, 2015

Yeah, well I did till in only blood meal and ammonium sulfate for N back in the Fall, but I boost them with some dilute 30-10-10 soluble now

Seems like it was about 10-12 days for the report.

Also, the Fall planted/still growing cereal rye has been consuming (some of) the Fall N. I'm just a bit leery of mixing up straight N to top dress or fertigate. My luck, I'd burn 'em. So far, I am more comfortable with a premixed, labeled soluble.

I do have some extra "backups" I can experiment with, (Already have a 4.7 ph 5% vinegar in water at 1:15 experiment going) I may trial different levels of AS in water and as dressing on them first.

Worth1 · April 13, 2015

Is this a result of using low N high P K fertilizers throughout the years?

I have always been against using low N high P K fertilizers.

Worth

decherdt · April 13, 2015

Yeah, some. Have always been light handed with the N. I hear that this black land prairie black clay gumbo holds P and K no matter what, so how much is readily available has been a concern. But since I got the report, I am trialing high N (against my inclinations) with lower P and K. Have pretty good fruit set so far. Lots of JD C-tex, but can't get a Dester to set yet

Worth1 · April 13, 2015

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Originally Posted by decherdt

Yeah, some. Have always been light handed with the N. I hear that this black land prairie black clay gumbo holds P and K no matter what, so how much is readily available has been a concern. But since I got the report, I am trialing high N (against my inclinations) with lower P and K. Have pretty good fruit set so far.

I have used so much 13-13-13 on the garden before the it slightly burned everything I had.
Everything was practically blue green squash tomatoes and all.
It was one of the best crops I ever had.
I think as long as you have P and K I dont thing from my experience it matters how much N you use as long as you dont burn the plants up.

I had the (at that time) the county extension agent tell me that, He lived next door.
He is also the guy that told me why my plants were purple, this was back in 1987.
As is known now it was due to the cool nights.

The black gumbo might hold P and K but it doesn't mean the plants cant take it up from the soil.
That area used to be one of the best farming ares in Texas.

Worth

April 3, 2015	#125
decherdt Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 329	What about hummingbirds, anybody seen hummingbirds?. It hasn't barely dipped into the 40's here since Dwayne said go. Tomatoes have really responded. The biggest of the starts I put out on the 15th really has put on 2 ft in 4 weeks. __________________ 500 sq ft of raised rows zone 8a

April 3, 2015	#127
tedln Guest Posts: n/a	Sorry, double post! Ted Last edited by tedln; April 3, 2015 at 10:13 AM.

April 13, 2015	#132
decherdt Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 329	Yeah, well I did till in only blood meal and ammonium sulfate for N back in the Fall, but I boost them with some dilute 30-10-10 soluble now Seems like it was about 10-12 days for the report. Also, the Fall planted/still growing cereal rye has been consuming (some of) the Fall N. I'm just a bit leery of mixing up straight N to top dress or fertigate. My luck, I'd burn 'em. So far, I am more comfortable with a premixed, labeled soluble. I do have some extra "backups" I can experiment with, (Already have a 4.7 ph 5% vinegar in water at 1:15 experiment going) I may trial different levels of AS in water and as dressing on them first. __________________ 500 sq ft of raised rows zone 8a Last edited by decherdt; April 13, 2015 at 11:12 AM.

April 13, 2015	#134
decherdt Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 329	Yeah, some. Have always been light handed with the N. I hear that this black land prairie black clay gumbo holds P and K no matter what, so how much is readily available has been a concern. But since I got the report, I am trialing high N (against my inclinations) with lower P and K. Have pretty good fruit set so far. Lots of JD C-tex, but can't get a Dester to set yet __________________ 500 sq ft of raised rows zone 8a Last edited by decherdt; April 13, 2015 at 11:50 AM.

April 3, 2015	#123
creister Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Abilene, TX zone 7 Posts: 1,478	Scissor tail flycatchers have returned and mesquite are starting to put out leaves, so no more frosts! Hopefully!

April 3, 2015	#126
creister Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Abilene, TX zone 7 Posts: 1,478	I don't usually see the humming birds until later, May if I recall correctly.

April 3, 2015	#128
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	I am making some hummingbird food today. Yesterday, I was watering in some seed when this mini-helicopter sounding buzzzzz approached. I didn't see it, but yeah, a hummingbird. They're as bad as the cats...feed me - feed me - feed me.

April 13, 2015	#129
OzoneNY Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Frisco Texas Posts: 390	where do Texans get their soil tested? Who did your soil test and how did you like the service? I think I need to get mine looked at/

April 13, 2015	#131
Dewayne mater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,212	So did you basically not add anything to your soil except nitrogen? Thanks for the info. Been thinking of doing that myself, but haven't yet. Do you remember how long it took to get results? DM

April 13, 2015	#133
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Is this a result of using low N high P K fertilizers throughout the years? I have always been against using low N high P K fertilizers. Worth