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Old June 23, 2009   #1
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Default A Mosaic or Just Misery? :-)

These pics were taken before the big windstorm. But it's been cold, wet, and overcast here forever.

This plant is actually one of my "biggest" plants. . . I purchased it and didn't really bury it deep just to see what would happen. . . .

Thanks in advance!!!! :0)
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Old June 23, 2009   #2
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Have you looked carefully for aphids or other buggies?
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There was an aphid infestation that popped up on the Brandywine next to it. . . but I didn't see any bug problems on this plant.

I don't know if this helps but the whole thing is wilting and drooping a lot too.
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Could be verticillium wilt. Gardens in the Northeast get that,
and it is a hard thing to get rid of. Cold, wet soil favors it.

I had it in a few spots and containers last year. Part of a
Black Cherry recovered after I cut off all of the wilted
branches, gave it some aspirin, and the weather warmed
up. A couple of others limped along all season and produced
a few fruit that were bland at best and uneatable in one case.

In one container, a Pipo plant just keeled over completely,
while a verticillium-tolerant New Yorker plant sharing the same
container looked a bit stressed for a week and then recovered.
(I was using an ad hoc container mix that included compost
from a compost pile, old potting soil that had sat outdoors all
winter, peat moss, some fresh bagged potting mix, alfalfa from
a bale, bagged sand, etc. The verticillium could have come from
anywhere.)

The ones growing in soil that had it were replaced by
verticillium tolerant varieties this year, while I work on
coming up with some way to eliminate it besides
chemical fumigation or growing grains there for 6 years.

There are other possibilities, of course. Look close around the
base of the stem right above ground level. See any discoloration?
Any physical damage? A little hole maybe? (I did not think
Massachusetts was stem borer country, but I have not lived
there, so ....)
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Old June 24, 2009   #5
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PULL?

It grew last night . . . but it grew funky!
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That does not look like verticillium to me. Branches just
wilt, and once they do, they do not come back.

The plant is a little twisted up, but the leaves look quite
healthy. So far, it does not look like CMV or similar virii,
either. With those, the leaves themselves twist up and roll
a lot more than that, and new leaves are usually quite small.

I have seen plants that look like that, but I do not know the
cause. I would leave it alone for a couple of more days, maybe
a week, and see what happens. Maybe it starts growing
vertically again.

(It just looks like it is growing unevenly, with some parts
growing faster than other parts. I have had plants where
the top of the main stem looked like a clenched fist.
I thought, "Oh no, 'rosette condition'," which is a symptom
of particular diseases and nutrient imbalances, etc, but
the thing eventually grew out of it, and the plant ended
up looking like a normal tomato plant.)
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There was an aphid infestation that popped up on the Brandywine next to it. . . but I didn't see any bug problems on this plant.

I don't know if this helps but the whole thing is wilting and drooping a lot too.


Ok, it was just that the leaf distortion in your original pictures looked like it could be from aphids or whiteflies.

I'm not seeing anything really wrong with the plants in the latest pictures, either. I would second dice's "give it a week" suggestion.
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