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Old September 2, 2016   #1
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Default Long/Indeterminate inflorescence

I saw a couple of times cherry type tomatoes that have incredibly long flower and fruit clusters.Here is what I mean:


My question is,are those flower clusters indeterminate,does each flower truss end divide into new flowers indefinitely? Because I could swear I saw somewhere clusters that are 1m long and STILL have new flowers at the end.Also,would be neat if anyone knows names of cultivars with this trait.
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Old September 2, 2016   #2
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That's the coolest thing.boy I'd love to grow a plant like that!
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Old September 2, 2016   #3
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Here's another one with long flat trusses of cherries

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Goldkrone

And the are many more.

I just got seeds for this variety that I think will be grown out by my seed producers next summer.

Another one,first the pictures

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...64.Hhq77USjWNk

And now the links

https://www.google.com/#q=Hundreds+a...s+tomato&hl=en

Most seed sources are in England but some here at Tville might have it and if you post in the Wanted seed subforum, actually several here from England who might be able to get it for you.

Again,many more,I just don't have time to do the Google searches or searches here at Tville.And if it were me I'd start with a search here at Tville first for Hundreds and Thousands.

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Hey I found a term for it,it's called a "raceme" inflorescence:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raceme

Apparently there are tomato cultivars with this trait,anyone know any cultivars with it? It's incredibly useful,since it allows cherry tomatoes (and perhaps can be bred into larger fruited ones) to put out their maximum yield in given conditions.
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Did you take the picture? Did you ask the grower what the name of the tomato is?

You could buy some of the tomatoes and save the seeds.
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Did you take the picture? Did you ask the grower what the name of the tomato is?

You could buy some of the tomatoes and save the seeds.
Unfortunatelly,no-I found it on google pictures,simply by typing "hybrid cherry".I've seen dosens of cherry cultivars in my area but never ones like this.I have a strain of solanum pimp. that can grow clusters of 30+ small fruits in a single cluster but they always terminate at some point,while there appears to exist a trait that allows new flowers to be indefinitely created at the growing point of inflorescenses.I assume I would not be able to grow clusters like 3m long,but still,like I said,it would actually allow the plant to put in the highest possible amount of energy into fruits-increaseing yields.
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I just did a Google search for "tomato with long flat truss" and found the photo
you posted.

It is Rapunzel f1, named for the girl in the fairy tale who let her long hair hang down
out of the tower she was kept in.

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sweet million was supposed to,but failed in my garden to measure up.
The plant is dead now, so no pics.
I was just able to salvage 1 lateral to try to clone,the cluster only had 5 blossoms on it.
I bought it as seeds in a peat pod you plant,I forgot the brand.

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I saw those Rapunzel huge truss photos, and had some other seed I was ordering from TGS, so on a whim ordered Rapunzel F1 as well. My trusses were nowhere as long as those in the picture. I suspect those photos have been doctored for advertisement. Mine were not that much longer than other similar cherries. Taste was fine, sweet and a little crunchy, but I won't grow them again.



That bottom truss is not part of the one above. I'd sure like to hear if any home grower has seen the extra long ones.
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I was kinda aiming for finding out if such a thing as "infinite" inflorescence exists.Rapunzel maybe has long ones but they're not indefinite since they terminate with a final flower.
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I believe the stock photo of Supersweet 100 shows long raceme clusters though nowhere near as long as that pictured...
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I grew Rapunzel last season and didn't get trusses that length. Against my better judgment I bought a Rapunzel seedling again this year. I'll let you know if I get better truss length this year.
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I grew Rapunzel last season and didn't get trusses that length. Against my better judgment I bought a Rapunzel seedling again this year. I'll let you know if I get better truss length this year.
Maybe you need to hit it with a hi-P fertilizer regularly; I had loads & loads of flowers last year using 9-45-15 from the start. I don't think a variety like this is made to be grown organically [guessing you may say that's how you grow.]
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I saw those Rapunzel huge truss photos, and had some other seed I was ordering from TGS, so on a whim ordered Rapunzel F1 as well. My trusses were nowhere as long as those in the picture. I suspect those photos have been doctored for advertisement. Mine were not that much longer than other similar cherries. Taste was fine, sweet and a little crunchy, but I won't grow them again.



That bottom truss is not part of the one above. I'd sure like to hear if any home grower has seen the extra long ones.
It's not a photomontage. I think it's a manner of growing and mainly fertilization (I agree with the Korney 19).
On my picture Charmant F1, I will send you the seeds of this tomato next week. You'll be able to try, if you can to grow plants with so many fruits. I'll try it too.
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Vladimir, I look forward to the seeds and will do my best to grow some of those long trusses. We will have to compare notes and pictures next summer!
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