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Medbury Gardens · September 23, 2016

Can anyone tell me what this perennial plant is, it come with either a white, pink or red/white flower

**carolyn137** · September 26, 2016

[QUOTE=Medbury Gardens;593550]Can anyone tell me what this perennial plant is, it come with either a white, pink or red/white flower

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Richard,I've looked and looked at that picture and not knowing the wild flora of NZ, all I can come up with is are primroses,with those colors, but often with ones I know there are usually some yellows as well.

See if you can find them here, all from NZ,since they talk about both wild and not wild primroses.

https://www.google.com/search?q=prim..._AUIBygA&dpr=1

Best I can do for now,

Carolyn, whose brother,the obsessed trout person,who crafts bamboo rods, flew to NZ and visited both the big island and small one,I think that's what they were called.

salix · September 26, 2016

Richard, I too have been puzzling over that photo. The leaves look very familiar, almost comfrey-like. I hope you will post another picture when it is in bloom so we can solve the mystery.

Medbury Gardens · September 26, 2016

I think its a little early in the season yet, once it flowers i'll update this thread, it was someone else on a Facebook group that asked what it was, her photo was not very good so i took a photo of a clump of mine. I know its not native to NZ and so far no one in the FB group has given her an answer yet. You will know it once you see the flower/seed head, the seed head is like a poppy head, tip it up and the seed falls out

carolyn137 how long was your brother here for

habitat_gardener · September 26, 2016

The first thing I thought of was red valerian (Centranthus ruber), which comes in those colors and has a clump like that, but on closer inspection, centranthus leaves are much smoother both on the surface and edges. And the seed head is nothing like a poppy. Hmm...

Medbury Gardens · September 26, 2016

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Originally Posted by habitat_gardener

The first thing I thought of was red valerian (Centranthus ruber), which comes in those colors and has a clump like that, but on closer inspection, centranthus leaves are much smoother both on the surface and edges. And the seed head is nothing like a poppy. Hmm...

No thats not it, though Centranthus ruber is on the pest plant list, does grower a bit around this area.

greenthumbomaha · September 26, 2016

Robert and habitat, I planted a Red Valerian this afternoon. The specimen I have has a much thinner toothed leaf. Of course the few leaves were tiny as it was a seedling in a 4 inch pot, but I don't think it will mature to look like this. My plant was purchased at the Nebraska Statewide Arboritum (NSA) plant sale. They have a photo and comments on their website. I'll go check my phone and see if I took a decent enough photo to post.

- Lisa

As much as I love my iPhone, sometimes take a picture and later find out there isn't a single image

KarenO · September 27, 2016

Something in the Campanula family, a bellflower I believe. Which one I cannot say but I will most likely be able to ID it once it is blooming. Seed heads of all campanula species are filled with teeny seeds you can shake out like a salt/ pepper shaker.

Labradors2 · September 27, 2016

I wonder about Red Campion?

BTW if anyone has seeds for Centranthus Ruber, I'd love to do a swap. I know it's a pest in some areas, but hopefully not here.

Linda

bitterwort · September 28, 2016

The leaves look vaguely like Dame's Rocket, Hesperis. You might google images of that and see if it fits your flowers.

Medbury Gardens · October 9, 2016

Now that its starting to flower, this should help hopefully.

Its not Dame's Rocket or Bellflower

bitterwort · October 9, 2016

From head-on, the flowers suggest some type of Silene, perhaps S. pendula or dioica or something along those lines (just from searching images). Very pretty!

Medbury Gardens · October 9, 2016

Yes Silene latifolia it is, thanks bitterwort.

Ive got white, red and the pink in the photo

Labradors2 · October 9, 2016

Silene /Campion is considered invasive in North America. Maybe it's not in NZ, but you might want to watch it just in case.....

Linda

Medbury Gardens · October 10, 2016

Yes i could see how it could become invasive, if i have any bare soil areas i'm sure to have young silene plants show up, but apart form that in 20 years it never really become a problem. I'm thinking of sowing more of it in a young Rhododendrons garden, i think the two together would look great.

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Originally Posted by Labradors2

Silene /Campion is considered invasive in North America. Maybe it's not in NZ, but you might want to watch it just in case.....

Linda

September 23, 2016	#1
Medbury Gardens Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Medbury, New Zealand Posts: 1,881	plant id Can anyone tell me what this perennial plant is, it come with either a white, pink or red/white flower __________________ Richard

September 26, 2016	#2
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	[QUOTE=Medbury Gardens;593550]Can anyone tell me what this perennial plant is, it come with either a white, pink or red/white flower &&&&& Richard,I've looked and looked at that picture and not knowing the wild flora of NZ, all I can come up with is are primroses,with those colors, but often with ones I know there are usually some yellows as well. See if you can find them here, all from NZ,since they talk about both wild and not wild primroses. https://www.google.com/search?q=prim..._AUIBygA&dpr=1 Best I can do for now, Carolyn, whose brother,the obsessed trout person,who crafts bamboo rods, flew to NZ and visited both the big island and small one,I think that's what they were called. __________________ Carolyn

September 26, 2016	#3
salix Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: north central B.C. Posts: 2,310	Richard, I too have been puzzling over that photo. The leaves look very familiar, almost comfrey-like. I hope you will post another picture when it is in bloom so we can solve the mystery. __________________ "He who has a library and a garden wants for nothing." -Cicero

September 26, 2016	#4
Medbury Gardens Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Medbury, New Zealand Posts: 1,881	I think its a little early in the season yet, once it flowers i'll update this thread, it was someone else on a Facebook group that asked what it was, her photo was not very good so i took a photo of a clump of mine. I know its not native to NZ and so far no one in the FB group has given her an answer yet. You will know it once you see the flower/seed head, the seed head is like a poppy head, tip it up and the seed falls out carolyn137 how long was your brother here for __________________ Richard

September 26, 2016	#7
greenthumbomaha Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Omaha Zone 5 Posts: 2,514	Robert and habitat, I planted a Red Valerian this afternoon. The specimen I have has a much thinner toothed leaf. Of course the few leaves were tiny as it was a seedling in a 4 inch pot, but I don't think it will mature to look like this. My plant was purchased at the Nebraska Statewide Arboritum (NSA) plant sale. They have a photo and comments on their website. I'll go check my phone and see if I took a decent enough photo to post. - Lisa As much as I love my iPhone, sometimes take a picture and later find out there isn't a single image Last edited by greenthumbomaha; September 26, 2016 at 10:08 PM.

September 26, 2016	#5
habitat_gardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Central Valley Posts: 2,543	The first thing I thought of was red valerian (Centranthus ruber), which comes in those colors and has a clump like that, but on closer inspection, centranthus leaves are much smoother both on the surface and edges. And the seed head is nothing like a poppy. Hmm...

September 27, 2016	#8
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	Something in the Campanula family, a bellflower I believe. Which one I cannot say but I will most likely be able to ID it once it is blooming. Seed heads of all campanula species are filled with teeny seeds you can shake out like a salt/ pepper shaker.

September 27, 2016	#9
Labradors2 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,894	I wonder about Red Campion? BTW if anyone has seeds for Centranthus Ruber, I'd love to do a swap. I know it's a pest in some areas, but hopefully not here. Linda

September 28, 2016	#10
bitterwort Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MN Zone4b Posts: 292	The leaves look vaguely like Dame's Rocket, Hesperis. You might google images of that and see if it fits your flowers. __________________ Bitterwort

October 9, 2016	#11
Medbury Gardens Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Medbury, New Zealand Posts: 1,881	Now that its starting to flower, this should help hopefully. Its not Dame's Rocket or Bellflower __________________ Richard