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April 6, 2008 | #1 |
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Project: Brandywine x Neves Azorean Red
I am working on a really cool cross for a good friend.
Bill Jeffers (PapaVic) asked me for some Neves Azorean Red seeds a couple years ago. I sent them and he grew it out. In the same season, he noticed a really productive Brandywine (from Livingston Seed Co.) and crossed it with Neves to "build a better tomatoer". He mailed me some F1 seeds, so last season, I grew it out (RL) - it produced some great tasting maters (outstanding for being pot bound), and this year in the F2's I have 3 RL's and 2 PL. So we know the cross took. Bunch of other folks got some F2's as well. Should be fun! ~ Tom
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April 6, 2008 | #2 |
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http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...468381.html?13
Tom, you and others in on this project might take a look at the above thread where quite a few folks are reporting on that cross and where Bill has shown some pictures that might be helpful to others working on the same project. Bill sent me some F1 seeds knowing my interest in NAR for sure, and I'll be growing a plant this summer, rather, Freda will. When I said I'd be behind most others as to F2 seed Bill offered to send me some but my list is already set for this summer and I just can't fit in any more since I can grow so few plants these days and I have many many all new ones and they have first priority. Just curious, but the NAR seeds you sent to Bill, were they from plants you grew from seeds from me? Matters not, really, but if I have children out there I'd like to recognize them and maybe put them in my will I have to make this summer.
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April 6, 2008 | #3 |
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lol Carolyn - too funny; take it easy up there!
My NAR came from a guy named Don (but I forget which one). A Don from the GW dayz, which doesn't narrow it down much... But when I was first on and met everyone at GW I was trading like mad ... Luckily for my new wife (and lawn), my seed trading has slowed to be only what I "need" (yeah right)... I'm building a new raised bed this spring and have it drawn out already... (Gosh do I love F2's) Carolyn - do you see what you have created ???!! On another note, I'm happy to report that I have 4 RL NAR X and 2 PL NAR X - I'm going to grow out 1 of each. ~ Tom
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April 7, 2008 | #4 |
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TT, I'm growing both 2ea F1's and 1ea PL and 1ea RL of the F2
which I got from PV as well. It will be a hoot and I'll update this thread with info and pics as the season progreses from the other side of the pond. Ami
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April 7, 2008 | #5 |
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Ami !!! Good deal !!! I can't wait to see the progress !!!
By the way - my best friend just got back from Germany after living there for a month - said he found the girl of his dreams; and wants to live there permanently!!! ~ Tom
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April 8, 2008 | #6 |
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TT, tell your friend I can relate to that. Been there,done that and still doin it after 36 years. Ami
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April 8, 2008 | #7 |
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lol Ami - good times !
Here are a few pics of my NAR X: RL (INTERMEDIATE LEAF FORM): PL : Taken a few days ago, I know they're not the best - but they "work" for now. ~ Tom
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June 8, 2008 | #8 |
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Here's a few photo's from my BxNAR's taken today. First photo shows the PL version on the left and the RL variant on the right. The second is the PL and the third is the PL overhead shot. The forth is the RL variant and the fifth is an overhead shot of the RL. Ami
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June 10, 2008 | #9 |
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Good growing T !!!
Mine are doing good as well, and I should be able to get out to the patch tonight and snap some pics. The RL's seem to be more vigorous to me than the PL's. See you around campus, ~ Tom
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June 11, 2008 | #10 |
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Updated pics of NAR X:
RL PL ~ Tom
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June 19, 2008 | #11 |
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Here's a couple pictures of the flower clusters I'm getting on the F2 PL plant. Ami
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June 23, 2008 | #12 |
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First fruit to appear. Ami
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July 20, 2008 | #13 |
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Here's the latest pictures from My B x NAR F2. The fruit is all from the PL plant as my RL plant has not had fruit set as of yet.On the pictures of the plants, the PL is on the left and the RL on the right. Ami
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August 1, 2008 | #14 |
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A couple more photos of the fruit. This one shaped like a popeye chin. Ami
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August 2, 2008 | #15 |
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RL NARX
~ Tom
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