General information and discussion about cultivating onions, garlic, shallots and leeks.
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October 4, 2016 | #1 |
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Elephant Garlic
just ordered 25 bulbs for 9.99 from bonanza (missourijack), never grown before. I read this is actually a leak.
after some short reading on the net, some ppl say put in the freezer for a few weeks and plant later in the year for southern climate. never done that either, any thoughts? also read that customary to plant on short day (12/21) and harvest on longest day (06/21) or thereabouts. never done that neither. usually plant in late October, but may wait till turkey day. |
October 4, 2016 | #2 |
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I've got something similar and I try to plant early September. I use first as baby leaks starting December.
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Relegated to soft neck varieties due to spring weather and early summer being hotter than northern counterparts. First time growing the BIG garlic, we shall see. |
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October 5, 2016 | #4 | |
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I planted ours last December 21 (Shortest day) and it was ready in June. I don't think planting a month earlier would hurt a thing unless the ground temperature is still pretty hot. I just remembered where I read that http://www.harvesttotable.com/2012/0...lanted-garlic/ Temperature. Garlic germinates in soil temperature of 55°F and grows best in soil temperatures ranging from 55°F to 75°F (13-24°C). Garlic that has established roots will overwinter best. |
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October 6, 2016 | #5 | |
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Leeks have a very short summer rest. They will sprout at the minimum temperature drop in late August/September. Sometimes just after first rain. Obviously, soil is quite hot (I'm at the equivalent of San Diego). |
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October 6, 2016 | #6 |
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yes, I meant to say refridgerator, not freezer. Thank you for the correction.
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October 7, 2016 | #7 |
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You're right in the heart of Arkansas, I would plant in November too. http://www.usclimatedata.com/climate...tates/usar0909
ilex, you are right. It is a leek that is like an onion too. The bulb looks like garlic. I have been as close to San Diego as 1,165 km - Somewhere in-between lives my sister-in-law in a desert town. I don't dare to cross that desert - she might be there. |
October 10, 2016 | #8 |
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Well technically term 'germinates' refers to a seed.
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October 10, 2016 | #9 |
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Who decides what is what in the plant world and why?
I have known the better part of my life elephant garlic was a leek, about the same minute I heard of the stuff the next I heard it was a leek. I think it was on the Frugal Gourmet show on PBS years ago. Why is elephant garlic classed as a leak and not garlic. Worth |
October 10, 2016 | #10 |
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Apparently, elephant garlic does not have the same health benefits as regular garlic. Who knows? Maybe it has other health benefits.
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October 10, 2016 | #11 |
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Technically I think it means Elephant Garlic can cross with leeks, but not with garlic. Down to the DNA I guess, they are a match for the leek.
Where neither the Elephant nor the true garlic often make seeds, maybe it's mostly a moot point? Or does EG often flower and set seeds? If so, could cross with your leeks. |
October 10, 2016 | #12 |
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I have read that they are called scallops, garlic, and leeks. They look like garlic to me. The only reason I've grown it is because others have told me I cannot grow it in-ground. Wrong.
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October 10, 2016 | #13 |
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Last edited by Worth1; October 11, 2016 at 12:04 AM. |
October 11, 2016 | #14 |
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Most leeks make bulbs, specially old ones. Wild leeks make lots of them. Elephant garlic bulbs just happens to look like garlic, but anything else is quite leek.
Note there's a real garlic called elephant garlic grown in South America (Chiloe Island). |
October 31, 2016 | #15 |
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Last fall I ordered elephant garlic from UK and planted to my garlic bed here in Finland. Last winter was harsh and none of the cloves survived. Now I am getting some cloves from a grower in Finland, but it is already too late to plant them here so I and will refrigerate them and plant during spring.
My DH is currently in Japan on a business trip and I asked him to look for local garlic varieties. This morning he e-mailed me that elephant garlic is commonly used there. I started to google it and found a thing called Japanese garlic, which does not look like a regular garlic clove. Then I noticed that they look exactly like elephant garlic corms. This Japanese garlic is advertised to have some special health values, but I could not find any good information about the plants themselves and I can find information about them only on English ans Spanish, but nothing in Japanese. Many Japanese sites however had a lot of pictures of the giant elephant garlic called janboninniku (some showed also the corms attached to the heads). I do not speak Spanish, but I found this video interesting. https://youtu.be/MWb9kSh1fzE As I understood it shows planting elephant garlic from cloves and corms, which grow to a giant single bulb the first year. Sari
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