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October 23, 2014 | #1 |
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(Sungold x Mikado White) x Lithium Sunset
(Sungold x Mikado White) x Lithium Sunset. Now at F2.
I can already hear Carolyn coming to tell me that Mikado White doesn't exist anymore. The 'Mikado White' is almost certainly Potato Leaf White, but it came to me as "mikado", so I'm keeping it labeled that way. My original goal for this cross was a fruity, PL striped cherry. But I found the cherry size F1's uninspiring, so I went forward from this larger bicolor F1 -- Here's some of this year's F2's From top to bottom, left to right: FY 4-1, FY 4-2, FY 4-3, FY 4-4, FY 4-5, FY 4-6 FY 6-1, FY 6-2 FY 4-5. The winner for sure. Really cool striped bicolor. Nice and sweet. Could be more "fruity" - maybe at F3? I also liked FY 6-1 quite a bit - fruity, but lacked the ""wow" factor. I'll do a few. Some other seg's -- JL 5-1 JL 7-1 and 7-3. 7-3 was better, but it has the "big core" problem from Lithium Sunset, which I'm trying to breed away from. JL 7-2. Average taste JL 7-5. Like the stripes. Low production for me. I'll probably do a couple F3's to see what cones out, it has potential. JL 7-6. Average bicolor. |
February 25, 2016 | #2 |
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FY 8-1 Pretty epic colors, taste is quite good. #2 choice for growouts FY 9-4 and FY 9-2. 9-2 is my #1 grow out choice from this line. The flavor is a 9, and it's quite productive and early enough. More segs - |
February 25, 2016 | #3 |
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You say you can ALMOST hear me about there being no Mikado White, so here I am to say there IS no Mikado White.
It was WWW who first SSE listed it and many of us knew there was no Mikado White and we were able to find out that he had sent out Potato Leaf White instead.WWW misrepresented many varieties unfortunately. Whatever,some fine looking promising fruits you show there paddy, and IMO that's what counts. Trust me,or not,but your four crosses you sent me the seeds for WILL go to the Experimental Section of my seed offer and at this point I don't know when it will go up.. Just LOTS of issues and problems to be faced before that happens. But the good news is that I can now type better at night since I have a new LED backlighted keyboard with color selections of blue or red or purple. In addition I can now control volume via the keyboard and probably launch a drone if I wanted to. The bad news is that as with other new keyboards I've had there are lots of runon sentences until the keys get loosened up and it takes forever to go back and correct all of that. Carolyn, where we had thunder and lightning last night and I don't ever rememember that happening in Feb.
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February 25, 2016 | #4 | |
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Would you like me to send you fresher seeds for your seed offer? Not that those shouldn't still be fine, but I have more advanced selections of all of those lines if you'd like. |
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February 25, 2016 | #5 | |
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I will PM you the address to whom you send that and that's Shawn who is taking over the hard part of my seed offer and doing all the seed packing and whatever, so look for that PM with the address.Could you get it to him in the next week or two.? Finally is it at all possible that so many of your pictures of fruits have a rock back ground,and to be more specific,would that be a trout stream? Carolyn
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February 25, 2016 | #6 | |
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My pics often have rocks in the background because my yard (and gardens) were all trout stream once. Great soil. Between the rocks. In all seriousness, In my main bed I sifted rocks one shovelful at a time to make the bed grow-able. We graveled our entire driveway and our neighbors from that one bed. |
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February 25, 2016 | #7 |
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Forgot to say - I'll send you updated descriptions/goals
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February 25, 2016 | #8 |
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I've changed my mind. It will be an e-mail since I want to put both you and Shawn on the same e-mail to discuss what goes where and why.
I have his e-mail and I know I have yours somewhere but it sure would save time if you could PM me your e-mail rather than my spending time trying to find it. Thanks again, Carolyn
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March 1, 2016 | #9 |
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I wish you the best of luck with your crosses. They are all eye candy.
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October 5, 2016 | #10 |
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Some F4's from this season -
This was the standout production line of the season. Every single plant was quite early, and ultra-productive. All of the plants were also among the most vigorous and stocky plants in the garden. FY 4-2 and FY 4-3. Flavor on 4-2 was too weak to save, but 4-3 was good flavored and extra meaty. FY 3-6, FY 3-5. Both bicolor 3-6 was particularly fruity, taste on 3-5 7.5/10. FY 3-7 Pretty, BC, fruity but could be stronger tasting. Taste 7/10, PRODUCTIVE. FY 3-8 FY 3-10. Tasty |
October 6, 2016 | #11 |
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Just beautiful! And so many are tasty and productive as well; oh to be young and limber again...
Congratulations.
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October 6, 2016 | #12 |
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3-6 is my favorite. Ruffles, color, flavor. Yeah!
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June 4, 2017 | #13 |
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Here is this years take on FY 8-1. The color is beautiful on this guy. I planted two plants and one of them is showing sime serious "Siberian Tiger" type striping. I will post more pics as they ripen up.
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June 4, 2017 | #14 |
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That is one awesome looking tomato and you get to eat one already. Paddy says it's early in Idaho so it must be super early in the CA weather. When did you plant out?
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June 5, 2017 | #15 |
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Here is one i picked last week off of plant number two before i went on a short vacation. It finally ripened up nicely.
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