Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Eastern/Coastal NC 8b
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What to use and how long to soak tomato, pepper, okra and eggplant seeds before planting. Many different opinions on the process, time and prep for seeds before planting or germinating. Looking for suggestions that have worked for other TVs.
I have had success in soaking in pure water overnight and then germinating tomato seeds in a coffee filter using the baggie method. Open to ideas about using Hydrogen Peroxide first and then tea, just soaking in tea, or other creative methods to assist in germination. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2007
Location: North County, San Diego
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I soak my tomato seeds in tap water (has chloramine) rinsing daily until they germinate. It takes between 3 to 10+ days depending on room temp and/or the viability of the seed. Then place them in 2 1/2 inch deep pots.
I tried the same with bell peppers this year for the first time and nothing happened after 10 days. Then I did some research and discovered they need warm temps. I rigged some heat using a heating pad and within three days they started to sprout. Then placed the germinated seeds in pots at least a week ago and still waiting for something to happen. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Steens, MS 8a
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Just my 2 cents worth...Bottom heat seems to be essential for good pepper germination. I soak my pepper seeds in a wet coffee filter (just filtered tap water) for about 3 hrs before planting and usually get good germination within 5 days. I don't soak tomato seeds at all unless they are more than 3 yrs old...
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Vancouver Island
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Tomatoes and eggplant I just plant in seed starting mix and water them. I use a heat mat. For peppers I pregerminate mine in moist paper towel in baggies on the heat mat, pot up as soon as I see the root radicle appear.
I don’t grow a okra up here so no experience with it. KarenO |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: UK
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I also do not soak tomato seeds - but do soak pepper/chilli seeds in luke warm black tea for few hours before potting up in seed mix - did ok last year with them but took a while to germinate even with bottom heat? Toms come up pretty quick for me usually
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Romania/Germany , z 4-6
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Tomatoes germinate quickly, and don't need it that warm (but warmth does help), so straight in medium is fine. I put peppers and eggplant just in the wet paper towels, never though about presoaking since that seems pretty wet already, and put that on my room heater (this year I also added a couple beads of calcium nitrate to the towels, seems to have helped a bit). They come up pretty quick, depends on the seed, good ones take about 4-5 days, after the tiny root appears I move them in the medium, where it takes 2 more days to actually sprout.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Omaha Zone 5
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zipcode, when you see that first tiny pepper radicle in the paper towel and pot it up, do you place the pot back on the heat mat until the seed actually breaks the soil? I used to have a fair number of helmet heads even sowing in soil directly, particularly with peppers.
I employ all the above methods. I didn't start using the paper towel (Dino) method until recently. Right now I have a few baggies in the sunny window. Then back on the heat mat or cable box, which I constantly monitor to avoid cooking. I can't think of a way to use the thermostat with a baggie. A few blizzardy days ago I was working late into the night starting peppers a month early to experiment with the cold treatment and/or pinching. I lost my mind and accidentally started Esterina. It grew very leggy without light (thinking it was on the pepper schedule and didn't check). Of all tomatoes, what am I going to do with a giant cherry seedling for the next 3 months? Lisa |
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Vermont
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Greenthumbomaha, I've got a similar, but worse problem as you. I thought it would be fun to try starting some of the old seeds from Carolyn's collection. I did soak the seeds in water with a few drops of "the blue stuff," (Miracle Grow) for two days, then potted them up and put on the heat mat set to 76F. Many more of the 15-year-old-plus seeds started right up than I expected, and a few from as old as 1992 & 1994! So now I've got 65 tomato plants growing, and I don't even plant into my hoophouse until mid May! I may need to invest in more LED lights!
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Ústí nad Labem in the north of the Czech Republic
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Hello Lisa.
I also grow giant cherry tomatoes (Tomato Berry) - at home on the window sill. My strategy is to put them in a 3-gallon pot, put 3 or 4 bamboo sticks around the circumference from the inside and then I navigate the stems in a sort of spiral. My windows are only 5ft high and I usually manage to squeeze the plants in till the weather is warmer and I can exile them onto the balcony. I usually let 3 shoots grow. My plan for next season (it's too late this year) is to put them in containers with removable bottoms (maybe AirPots) and then they could go into the garden - and not necessarily in a patch: lawn will do. Milan HP |
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Illinois
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I've been unable to garden a few years now. But last time I did, I soaked my tomato seeds in hydrogen peroxide for only about 5 minutes, which is to kill any fungus on them. I also used a red light over them while soaking. I don't recall the precise reason for that, but I think the light penetrates the seed coat and sparks germination. These were just some tips I read. If memory serves me correctly now, that is when I had seeds start germinating in just 3 days. I have a photo album on here of the the seedlings I grew that year. Very hearty plants, due to various factors I incorporated. I have to relearn everything I knew now.
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Augusta area, Georgia, 8a/7b
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The only seeds I soak are okra and carrot. Everything else just gets planted into moist soil and they do just fine coming up. Those planted in cell packs or small pots get covered by plastic wrap and set under the lights. I guess there's enough warmth coming off the lights that help the germination. No heat pad underneath. As soon as the seeds pop, the plastic comes off.
Pepper seed averages 8-10 days to germinate and tomatoes 4-6 days. |
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7
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I soak pepps and tomato seeds only I use small plastic penny bags, the same size that I save my seeds. mark the name with sharpie, put the seeds in, add couple tea spoon of water., close ....for over night , until next day sowing.
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Louisiana
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I recently woke up some 21 year old Wild Everglades Tomato seeds by soaking a mild Superthrive and Gibberellic acid mix.
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