Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NW Louisiana
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Or rather will they make fruit if I do root some. I have some Fireworks that have done so well that I would like to attempt fall tomatoes and don't have any seeds left.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: virginia
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I'm pretty sure you can root determinate suckers.I never have, but have planted some indeterminate suckers.Hopefully someone will confirm ![]() |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NE Louisiana, Zone 8A
Posts: 1,179
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Thats a good question. Curious myself. Someone with more knowledge on the subject should enlighten us soon, me thinks.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Alliance Nebraska
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Go For Broke. If you cain't(and I'm sure you can or we would have already heard you cain't) you are out nothing but time.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7
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It should be quicker growing by rooting than from seeds, IMO.
Plus, you can be 100% that you will get the exact same variety, no chance of cross. Gardeneer |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Laurinburg, North Carolina, zone 7
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I had a Marglobe that rooted itself on a branch that was laying on the ground. It had a nice,big second flush of tomatoes. It didn't have much time,since I was in AZ, where the tomato season is quite short but it did produce a surprising number of fruit,even with heat coming on.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Oklahoma
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Scott AKA The Redbaron "Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system." Bill Mollison co-founder of permaculture |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Evansville, IN
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When rooting "suckers" (side shoots) from fully determinate varieties, the side shoot may be advanced enough, or from a plant advanced enough, to have received the signal to terminate, and thus the rooted side shoot may form its terminal flowers before forming its own side shoots to grow additional fruit.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NW Louisiana
Posts: 89
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Ok then, so I should take them from lower down I guess- larger and thus more advanced. Is that correct?
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
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I've been doing a lot of counting leaves/internodes between clusters on determinate and semi-determinate plants this year. What seems to be common, is that the plant will do a "termination sequence" ie cluster - leaf - cluster cluster- leaf, and after that it will start again with either (a) the number of leaves before the first cluster on the main stem, or (b) the number of leaves before the first cluster on the side shoots, and then the termination sequence is repeated and the shoot terminates.
So I also noticed on a couple of plants that there are a lot of adventitious roots forming, right around the place where the new (a) or (b) series begins. As if the plant was shooting off another 'plant' of itself, to root down into the ground. So if I wanted to root a shoot from a determinate plant, I would count the leaves between the clusters, and I'd make my cut at the bottom of a series of three leaves or more without any clusters between em. If there's a cluster below and you want those fruit, leave one leaf just above the cluster and make your cut. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Finland, EU
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Yes. Go for it, try to get a sucker that is long enough to have enough stem to grow roots, but no visible blossoms/buds yet.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: No.Central Arkansas - 6b/7a
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I generally find it to be a waste of time. In the GH we clone 100s of indeterminates for sales but the success rate with determinates is very low and even if the cutting roots its odds of production are slim. The timing for taking the cutting and its age relative to the age of the mother plant are so crucial that you start out with 2 strikes against you. So for all practical purposes I tell folks not to waste time doing it.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NW Louisiana
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Uh-oh, my bad Fireworks is indeterminate which is good since there seems to be differing ideas- one says more advanced, one says younger. I have some determinates so I think experimentation is in order. Now if I can keep the mites under control through the summer. I'm tired of spraying.
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Join Date: Jun 2015
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NW Louisiana
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I really thought he said just the opposite, sorry Travis- it was a rather rambling post to
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