More turkey manure!

BrianS · January 4, 2009

Its a good thing I dont have neighbors very close to me! I just shovel a new load of turkey manure on the ole garden LOL

**Mischka** · January 4, 2009

What's your source? Your own stock or a local farm?

Either way, P-U! LOL

BrianS · January 4, 2009

I live about 30 minutes from a farm that has anywhere from 30,000 to 60,000 turks depending on time of year.

mresseguie · January 19, 2009

Brian,

I'm jealous! I'm not too jealous cuz I've got a herd of llamas 5 minutes from my home. That stuff is not only free but the owner will load it free to boot.

Good for you!

Michael in Oregon.

**Dukerdawg** · January 19, 2009

The best tomatoes I have ever tasted were grown by the father of an ex co-worker. Old italian man. His secret was turkey manure. I once sat at work and over the course of an afternoon ate about 10 pounds of tomatoes. Note to self: Hook up a source for turkey manure!

Duane

matereater · January 20, 2009

Hey Duane, there's a Turkey Farm down on Sibley Road about 3-4 miles (approx.) east of I275 on the north side, don't recall the name though. Next time I drive by that way I'll try and remember to write down the name.

**Dukerdawg** · January 20, 2009

Thanks Steve, appreciate the info. I think there is also a turkey farm in Livonia (I'm thinking Eight Mile?). Have to check them both out.

Duane

mresseguie · January 20, 2009

There's a duck farm about 20 miles north of me. How do you think it compares with turkey, chicken, or goose manure? Any thoughts appreciated.

Sherry_AK · January 20, 2009

And I live within 2 miles of the scene of 'Gobble-gate'! (But I don't get turkey poop from them; I think they make their own compost to sell.)

We get chicken, duck, goose and a little turkey poop from a local family with a small backyard-type farm. They are also the source of the birds my husband likes to raise each summer. I like getting manure there for two reasons: (1) they bag it up and stack it for us next to their driveway; (2) I know that she feeds non-medicated food.

So, for those of you who do get bird manure, do you worry about getting manure from birds who are fed medicated chow? Does it matter by the time it's poo? I've been wondering, since I've seen an ad on Craig's list for free deliveries of bird poo.

Sherry

dice · January 20, 2009

Duck Manure, 1.12-1.44-.49 N-P-K, according to

http://www.primalseeds.org/npk.htm

(They also show numbers for chicken manure, but not
goose or turkey.)

If this were my main fertilizer, I might add some molasses
to bump up the potassium, especially when tomatoes are
developing fruit.

I do not know how polluted commercial bird manure might
be with medications and so on. There were some reports
around a decade ago of flouroquinolone resistant bacteria
showing up in chicken manure that had been processed for
cattle feed, the bacteria apparently having adapted to the
SaraFlox antibiotic that bird factory farmers were adding to
the water that their chickens got, but I do not know if traces
of the FQL antibiotic itself were in the manure. About the same
time, the FDA approved irradiating the chicken (or turkey) meat
that was going to be packaged for sale to combat the antibiotic
resistant bacteria problem.

Commercial bird factory manures are usually high in minerals
that are added to the commercial feed that the chickens get.
This is generally a good thing for plants in the short term, but
it can build up over time to produce excessive levels of copper,
zinc, boron, etc, especially if your soil is already rich in any of
these elements. It seems wise to have an occasional soil test
done to test for this if one uses such a manure source for
fertilizer on an annual basis.

mresseguie · January 21, 2009

Oooh! Nice table, Dice. Thanks.

January 4, 2009	#1
BrianS Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 96	More turkey manure! Its a good thing I dont have neighbors very close to me! I just shovel a new load of turkey manure on the ole garden LOL __________________ Hook 'em Horns!

January 4, 2009	#2
Mischka Tomatoville® Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Bay State Posts: 3,207	What's your source? Your own stock or a local farm? Either way, P-U! LOL __________________ Mischka One last word of farewell, Dear Master and Mistress. Whenever you visit my grave, say to yourselves with regret but also with happiness in your hearts at the remembrance of my long happy life with you: "Here lies one who loved us and whom we loved." No matter how deep my sleep I shall hear you, and not all the power of death can keep my spirit from wagging a grateful tail.

January 4, 2009	#3
BrianS Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 96	I live about 30 minutes from a farm that has anywhere from 30,000 to 60,000 turks depending on time of year. __________________ Hook 'em Horns!

January 19, 2009	#4
mresseguie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 159	Brian, I'm jealous! I'm not too jealous cuz I've got a herd of llamas 5 minutes from my home. That stuff is not only free but the owner will load it free to boot. Good for you! Michael in Oregon. __________________ Learning to speak tomato! Got compost?

January 19, 2009	#5
Dukerdawg Growing for Market Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westland, Michigan Posts: 861	The best tomatoes I have ever tasted were grown by the father of an ex co-worker. Old italian man. His secret was turkey manure. I once sat at work and over the course of an afternoon ate about 10 pounds of tomatoes. Note to self: Hook up a source for turkey manure! Duane __________________ May I aspire to live my life so that I may be the man my dog thinks I am.

January 20, 2009	#6
matereater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S.E. Michigan (Livonia) Posts: 1,264	Hey Duane, there's a Turkey Farm down on Sibley Road about 3-4 miles (approx.) east of I275 on the north side, don't recall the name though. Next time I drive by that way I'll try and remember to write down the name. __________________ Steve Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult

January 20, 2009	#9
Sherry_AK Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alaska Zone 3/4 Posts: 1,857	And I live within 2 miles of the scene of 'Gobble-gate'! (But I don't get turkey poop from them; I think they make their own compost to sell.) We get chicken, duck, goose and a little turkey poop from a local family with a small backyard-type farm. They are also the source of the birds my husband likes to raise each summer. I like getting manure there for two reasons: (1) they bag it up and stack it for us next to their driveway; (2) I know that she feeds non-medicated food. So, for those of you who do get bird manure, do you worry about getting manure from birds who are fed medicated chow? Does it matter by the time it's poo? I've been wondering, since I've seen an ad on Craig's list for free deliveries of bird poo. Sherry

January 20, 2009	#10
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	Duck Manure, 1.12-1.44-.49 N-P-K, according to http://www.primalseeds.org/npk.htm (They also show numbers for chicken manure, but not goose or turkey.) If this were my main fertilizer, I might add some molasses to bump up the potassium, especially when tomatoes are developing fruit. I do not know how polluted commercial bird manure might be with medications and so on. There were some reports around a decade ago of flouroquinolone resistant bacteria showing up in chicken manure that had been processed for cattle feed, the bacteria apparently having adapted to the SaraFlox antibiotic that bird factory farmers were adding to the water that their chickens got, but I do not know if traces of the FQL antibiotic itself were in the manure. About the same time, the FDA approved irradiating the chicken (or turkey) meat that was going to be packaged for sale to combat the antibiotic resistant bacteria problem. Commercial bird factory manures are usually high in minerals that are added to the commercial feed that the chickens get. This is generally a good thing for plants in the short term, but it can build up over time to produce excessive levels of copper, zinc, boron, etc, especially if your soil is already rich in any of these elements. It seems wise to have an occasional soil test done to test for this if one uses such a manure source for fertilizer on an annual basis. __________________ -- alias Last edited by dice; January 21, 2009 at 04:15 PM. Reason: monkish reasons

January 21, 2009	#11
mresseguie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 159	Oooh! Nice table, Dice. Thanks. __________________ Learning to speak tomato! Got compost?