NJ Tomatoes

lakelady · February 11, 2013

I have a burning question that is always bothering me. A silly one actually

Why is it that Red Barn, Mule team, etc., are always referred to as bred by Joe Bratka's father and not named with Joe's father's name? I'm sure his father had one .....

Maybe there was a post somewhere that Carolyn mentioned she knew Joe's father and that Joe did send her the seeds to germinate....

**carolyn137** · February 11, 2013

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Originally Posted by lakelady

I have a burning question that is always bothering me. A silly one actually

Why is it that Red Barn, Mule team, etc., are always referred to as bred by Joe Bratka's father and not named with Joe's father's name? I'm sure his father had one .....

Maybe there was a post somewhere that Carolyn mentioned she knew Joe's father and that Joe did send her the seeds to germinate....

I'm not sure why this is in the Legacy Forum and I'm sure Joe's father did have a first name but I never asked Joe and Joe never told me his father's name.

I can add that Joe's father died when Joe was very young so it was a surprise to him when he found the seeds in the tool shed.

Carolyn

delltraveller · February 12, 2013

I believe his father's name was Joseph.

Sun City Linda · February 12, 2013

Interesting point! Inquiring minds and all that lol

lakelady · February 12, 2013

Well, I wasn't sure where to put this post, but being a question relating to the history of some tomatoes, I thought this was the best place. Forgive me if I was mistaken.

I just thought it odd that a tomato wouldn't be listed as being bred by Joe Bratka Sr., instead of folks listing as Joe Bratka's father. Call it OCD lol

**carolyn137** · February 12, 2013

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Originally Posted by lakelady

Well, I wasn't sure where to put this post, but being a question relating to the history of some tomatoes, I thought this was the best place. Forgive me if I was mistaken.

I just thought it odd that a tomato wouldn't be listed as being bred by Joe Bratka Sr., instead of folks listing as Joe Bratka's father. Call it OCD lol

The Joe I knew for so many years clearly could be called Joseph, as in Joesph JR, and one could find that out by doing some Googling as well.

As I said, I never asked Joe his father's name and he never mentioned it to me. After his parents died he's continued to live in the same home by himself. He's never worked b'c of a disability but for sure I'm not going to into that.

All he eversaid was that his father bred all of them and named them, and since I was the first tointroduceall of them I said whatJoe toldme, that his father had bred them and named them for thesimple freasonthat I never knew his father's name was Joephand probably was Joesname aswell

When he sent me seeds, and not just those, the envelopes were stamped all over, and I mean all over, with those rubber stamps that said Farmer Joe.

Not a problem if you considered those varieties to be Legacy varietes, which I don't as noted in the link below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxcar_Willie

See when Box Car Willie was born and then think back to what the timeline would be for his father to be breeding tomatoes.

Carolyn

lakelady · February 12, 2013

Thank you for clarifying this, I always wondered about it. I'm glad Joseph Bratka Sr., bred these as I loved Mule Team and am looking forward to growing others of his this year

jennifer28 · February 17, 2013

I'm growing red barn this year. I'm excited about it.

February 11, 2013	#1
lakelady Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: northern NJ zone 6b Posts: 1,862	NJ Tomatoes I have a burning question that is always bothering me. A silly one actually Why is it that Red Barn, Mule team, etc., are always referred to as bred by Joe Bratka's father and not named with Joe's father's name? I'm sure his father had one ..... Maybe there was a post somewhere that Carolyn mentioned she knew Joe's father and that Joe did send her the seeds to germinate.... __________________ Antoniette

February 12, 2013	#5
lakelady Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: northern NJ zone 6b Posts: 1,862	Well, I wasn't sure where to put this post, but being a question relating to the history of some tomatoes, I thought this was the best place. Forgive me if I was mistaken. I just thought it odd that a tomato wouldn't be listed as being bred by Joe Bratka Sr., instead of folks listing as Joe Bratka's father. Call it OCD lol __________________ Antoniette

February 12, 2013	#7
lakelady Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: northern NJ zone 6b Posts: 1,862	Thank you for clarifying this, I always wondered about it. I'm glad Joseph Bratka Sr., bred these as I loved Mule Team and am looking forward to growing others of his this year __________________ Antoniette

February 12, 2013	#3
delltraveller Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Iowa Posts: 481	I believe his father's name was Joseph.

February 12, 2013	#4
Sun City Linda Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SoCal Inland Posts: 2,705	Interesting point! Inquiring minds and all that lol

February 17, 2013	#8
jennifer28 Two-faced Drama Queen Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital Posts: 955	I'm growing red barn this year. I'm excited about it.