3 cotyledon

[charline]

I have a georgia streak seedling with 3 cotyledon. What does that mean for the plant and for the tomatoes?

[Worth1]

Nothing really but maybe more branches from what I have seen.

In nuts like pecans the seed inside will be three pecans in them instead of two.
This isn't conducive to modern shelling machinery so it will cause them to bring a lower price.

Worth

[heirloomtomaguy]

I have had a few triple's and i have not noticed any difference in production or growth. It is neat when it happens though. All you can do is grow it and see what it brings.

[Stvrob]

It will bring the plant good luck

[snugglekitten]

Originally Posted by charline

I have a georgia streak seedling with 3 cotyledon. What does that mean for the plant and for the tomatoes?

It is not a monocot, nor a dicot, but a tricot!

[AlittleSalt]

Originally Posted by Stvrob

It will bring the plant good luck

Yeah, basically a 4 leaf clover type thing.

Simpsons fish

[Worth1]

Must live around a nuke plant.
Worth

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by charline

I have a georgia streak seedling with 3 cotyledon. What does that mean for the plant and for the tomatoes?

Be sure to save some seeds from fruits that appear on the plant since the tricot appearence is not always genetically stable, which I know from others who have had tricots and one person actually had a quadcot.

Carolyn

[FLRedHeart]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Be sure to save some seeds from fruits that appear on the plant since the tricot appearence is not always genetically stable, which I know from others who have had tricots and one person actually had a quadcot.

Carolyn

They had a what? Hope they are feeling better now.

If we are talking Plant Kingdom, cotyledons are Greek, and your person grew a tetracotyledonous seedling. A tetracot!
(Unless they had a bovine quadruped when they saw it)

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by FLRedHeart

They had a what? Hope they are feeling better now.

If we are talking Plant Kingdom, cotyledons are Greek, and your person grew a tetracotyledonous seedling. A tetracot!
(Unless they had a bovine quadruped when they saw it)

Uno, dos, tres, quattro, as in "Q"etc.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=meaning+of+quad

I stand firm on what I posted as in quadcot.

The university I went to had many quadtrangles, four sided, for sure.

Carolyn, who notes that you might like tetracot, but in the tomato world, at least, all I know refer to them as quadcots, see Google search above.

[FLRedHeart]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Uno, dos, tres, quattro, as in "Q"etc.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=meaning+of+quad

I stand firm on what I posted as in quadcot.

The university I went to had many quadtrangles, four sided, for sure.

Carolyn, who notes that you might like tetracot, but in the tomato world, at least, all I know refer to them as quadcots, see Google search above.

Google as a reference?
See here, if you're standing firm, that's great news
Here's an interesting peer-reviewed figure of polycots including a tetracot, explained away with the "defective embryo and meristems (dem) mutation:



Reference:
Keddie et. al., The Plant Cell Journal, Transposon Tagging of the Defective embryo and meristems Gene of Tomato paper

Quadrangles, from the latin root word of angle, does not mean four sides as much as four angles ... though one goes with the other. Four sided is quadrilateral or if you are a Bruce Lee fan like me, maybe a tetragon.
A cow is a quadruped but it is a tetrapod.
Humans are dipody, not bipody, but we are bipeds. Photographers use monopods, and dipods, not unipods nor bipods... out of respect for ther ancients...

And more to the point in tomato genetics, they're polyploid (Greek-Greek) not "multiploid" (A chimera). Flowers (flora) from Latin can be multiflor, not polyflor for the same reason.

Just for fun, chimera is Greek, hybrid is from Latin hybrida. Multiflora is Latin, but Polyanthus is Greek, both mean multiple flowered, but there are no polyflora or multianth...
Hope that helps

[ginger2778]

Originally Posted by FLRedHeart

Google as a reference?
See here, if you're standing firm, that's great news
Here's an interesting peer-reviewed figure of polycots including a tetracot, explained away with the "defective embryo and meristems (dem) mutation:



Reference:
Keddie et. al., The Plant Cell Journal, Transposon Tagging of the Defective embryo and meristems Gene of Tomato paper

Quadrangles, from the latin root word of angle, does not mean four sides as much as four angles ... though one goes with the other. Four sided is quadrilateral or if you are a Bruce Lee fan like me, maybe a tetragon.
A cow is a quadruped but it is a tetrapod.
Humans are dipody, not bipody, but we are bipeds. Photographers use monopods, and dipods, not unipods nor bipods... out of respect for ther ancients...

And more to the point in tomato genetics, they're polyploid (Greek-Greek) not "multiploid" (A chimera). Flowers (flora) from Latin can be multiflor, not polyflor for the same reason.

Just for fun, chimera is Greek, hybrid is from Latin hybrida. Multiflora is Latin, but Polyanthus is Greek, both mean multiple flowered, but there are no polyflora or multianth...
Hope that helps

Where's the like button!!

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by FLRedHeart

Google as a reference?
See here, if you're standing firm, that's great news
Here's an interesting peer-reviewed figure of polycots including a tetracot, explained away with the "defective embryo and meristems (dem) mutation:



Reference:
Keddie et. al., The Plant Cell Journal, Transposon Tagging of the Defective embryo and meristems Gene of Tomato paper

Quadrangles, from the latin root word of angle, does not mean four sides as much as four angles ... though one goes with the other. Four sided is quadrilateral or if you are a Bruce Lee fan like me, maybe a tetragon.
A cow is a quadruped but it is a tetrapod.
Humans are dipody, not bipody, but we are bipeds. Photographers use monopods, and dipods, not unipods nor bipods... out of respect for ther ancients...

And more to the point in tomato genetics, they're polyploid (Greek-Greek) not "multiploid" (A chimera). Flowers (flora) from Latin can be multiflor, not polyflor for the same reason.

Just for fun, chimera is Greek, hybrid is from Latin hybrida. Multiflora is Latin, but Polyanthus is Greek, both mean multiple flowered, but there are no polyflora or multianth...
Hope that helps

I do hope we can agree to disagree, I think that would be best.

I have four years of Latin behind me, Greek not so much,which helped considerably for those like myself who ended up teaching med students as well as being involved in scientific research.

http://iai.asm.org/content/26/1/254.full.pdf

Polyploidy? Yes, I have several links in my faves but no time to go searching for those now b/c there are a total of about 2K entries.

Google Searches? Yes, I do trust Google when searching for specific information that I can't find elsewhere, usually peer reviewed. I was a peer reviewer for the journals of Infectious Diseases, Virology and Journal of Bacteriology.

Marsha ( Ginger), good thing there isn't a like button here at Tville, as I see it, and more specifically for this issue.

Carolyn

[FLRedHeart]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

I do hope we can agree to disagree, I think that would be best.

I have four years of Latin behind me, Greek not so much,which helped considerably for those like myself who ended up teaching med students as well as being involved in scientific research.

http://iai.asm.org/content/26/1/254.full.pdf

Polyploidy? Yes, I have several links in my faves but no time to go searching for those now b/c there are a total of about 2K entries.

Google Searches? Yes, I do trust Google when searching for specific information that I can't find elsewhere, usually peer reviewed. I was a peer reviewer for the journals of Infectious Diseases, Virology and Journal of Bacteriology.

Carolyn

OK, meditate on it a little though because it's what you said, not me.

There are plenty of references in the literature and Charles Rick who I met in his final years, and you surely respect and likely contacted, was interested in polycots and the genetics of them. I'm sure if we tried we could dig up his reference to tetracots if it were pressing, and since you're OK with it I'll "stick with Rick" on this one...

Back to the original question in that vein, Arabidopsis thaliana has been considered the model plant for genomic sequencing. Mutations in it that produce phenotypic monocot, dicot, tricot and tetracots are quantified in this Australian paper:

Chaudhury et. al. paper on polycotyly in Arabidopsis and what the plants are like

It is worth reading as it speaks of developmental instability leading to these genetic curiosities and discusses such tetracot mutant plants as producing extra cytokinins and interestingly showing different growth habits and early flowering. We can agree that they are very interest plants
Thanks Marsha, I bet you find the ancients as mesmerizing to read about as I do and find what the authors of the above paper call precocious flowering an interesting characteristic in subtropical summers

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by charline

I have a georgia streak seedling with 3 cotyledon. What does that mean for the plant and for the tomatoes?

Here is the original question.

Worth