similar cherry bigger than Matt's wild ?

luigiwu · July 30, 2015

Am loving the taste of Matt's wild cherry but can't help wishing every fruit was bigger. And prolific too please - any recs?

KC.Sun · July 31, 2015

I was very tempted to buy seeds for this variety on Tania's site. When I decided to grow tomatoes this year, I was too late to grow from seed so I randomly bought some plants to transplant directly into my Earthboxes.

I bought black cherry because I heard many good reviews on it.
Brown Berry just to make the order.
Coyote just because the name was interesting. Of the 3 cherry tomatoes I bought, coyote seems the bests so far. It's very prolific and similar in size to Matt's wild cherry. I like coyote because every tomato is a surprise. Some have a very good tomatoey flavor.

Brown Berry was my most prolific and aggressive growing tomato this year. I can't really comment on the flavor yet. I think I need to let it ripen more.

Black cherry was a disappointment. I was looking forward to trying them, but I was sent the wrong transplant. So I have a surprise mystery tomato I need to figure out what it is once it ripens.

I really like the coyote. I couldn't stop eating those. I wasn't too excited about growing it when I saw bad reviews for it. But I guess for some, it's an acquired taste. Or possibly because they were really happy in the earthboxes? Still yet to be determined.

AlittleSalt · July 31, 2015

Luigiwu. I grew three Matt's Wild Cherry plants this year. I think I got a cross in the seeds I grew. Two of the MWC plants grew fruit true, but one grew real cherry size tomatoes. They looked the same, tasted the same, and all three plants produced very heavily. I saved seeds from the larger sized only.

I'll send you some MWC seeds when I send you squash seeds in about a month.

Cole_Robbie · July 31, 2015

I didn't even bother picking the one Matt's Wild Cherry plant I grew this year. In addition to the fruit being tiny, they also burst if you give them a dirty look. I never made it back home with any fruit that didn't get crushed.

**carolyn137** · July 31, 2015

Having the word wild as part of the name suggests that this is a tiny currant type, as in S. pimpinellifolium, but that's not true at all and it was Johnny's who first introduced it so here's the link

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-7932-ma...ld-cherry.aspx

At the lower right where it says Quick Facts you can see that it's a normal S lycopersicon, var cerasiforme, that last word indicating it's a cherry.

Personally I don't like the taste of matt's at all, but the fact that it's a regular non wild variety opens the door to many many cherries and lots that I think have much better taste.

Are you looking just for larger red cherries, as you kind of implied above or any colored cherries.?

There are several threads here at Tville that are all about fave cherries that you can do a search for, or perhaps I could or someone else, or I could indicate which ones I prefer, red or any colored ones that would be bigger than Matt's.

Actually there is one I love that is red, a bit bigger than Matt's that Tania highly praises and so do I that does have some parentage of a wild one and that's:

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Sara%27s_Galapagos

Hope the above helps.

Carolyn

ContainerTed · July 31, 2015

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Originally Posted by luigiwu

Am loving the taste of Matt's wild cherry but can't help wishing every fruit was bigger. And prolific too please - any recs?

The one I've found that is very similar and is a bit larger is Sara's Galapagos. It produces like Matt's Wild Cherry and has that full flavor the same as Matt's. They even show first ripe fruit within a couple days of each other, they're the same color, and the taste is hard to tell the difference between them. I've planted both in the garden for the last 4 years, but never side by side.

**carolyn137** · July 31, 2015

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Originally Posted by ContainerTed

The one I've found that is very similar and is a bit larger is Sara's Galapagos. It produces like Matt's Wild Cherry and has that full flavor the same as Matt's. They even show first ripe fruit within a couple days of each other, they're the same color, and the taste is hard to tell the difference between them. I've planted both in the garden for the last 4 years, but never side by side.

Ted, I just posted about Sara's Galapagos in the post above this one of yours, a few hours before this post of yours.

I love it.

Carolyn

ContainerTed · July 31, 2015

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Originally Posted by carolyn137

Ted, I just posted about Sara's Galapagos in the post above this one of yours, a few hours before this post of yours.

I love it.

Carolyn

I saw that and thought I'd add an endorsement. Not sure who is vending seeds, but if no one else, I have plenty to share.

luigiwu · August 2, 2015

I lost my first response to this, argh - but thank you so much guys, I knew you would come through for me!

Sara's Galapagos is now on next years grow list!

Robert, Yes please to the larger Matt's you are finding.

Caroline, I thought Matt's had a great full-bodied flavor for such a tiny fruit! I know a lot o people has talked about reinsentraube too so maybe next year will be the year to try that.

Ted, if I can't find the seeds I might have to take you up on that offer!

ContainerTed · August 2, 2015

I'll have some seed fresh from this season in a few days. Why don't you PM your address and I'll get those out to you.

**carolyn137** · August 2, 2015

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Originally Posted by luigiwu

I lost my first response to this, argh - but thank you so much guys, I knew you would come through for me!

Sara's Galapagos is now on next years grow list!

Robert, Yes please to the larger Matt's you are finding.

Caroline, I thought Matt's had a great full-bodied flavor for such a tiny fruit! I know a lot o people has talked about reinsentraube too so maybe next year will be the year to try that.

Ted, if I can't find the seeds I might have to take you up on that offer!

My seeds of Sara's Galapagos are from 2006, too old to send to anyone, not just old,but I consider them to be actually antiques.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't consider Reisentraube to be a cherry tomato since the fruits have a wee tip at the blossom end although it is one that I like very much and actually it's a multiflora so one flower stalk can have several hundreds of blossoms but usually only about 40-60 set fruit. We have it with a German name but it was grown in many places in Europe and I think it was in Hungary it was called Goat's T*t.

It was also used to make wine and I was once sent a bottle of that wine and it was excellent, like a pale sherry, and in one of the issues of Off The Vine, an international newsletter that I started and asked Craig (nctomatoman) if he wanted to join with me, we gave the recipe for that wine as given to us.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Riesentraube

Carolyn

July 30, 2015	#1
luigiwu Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: ny Posts: 1,219	similar cherry bigger than Matt's wild ? Am loving the taste of Matt's wild cherry but can't help wishing every fruit was bigger. And prolific too please - any recs? __________________ Subirrigated Container gardening (RGGS) in NY, Zone 7!

July 31, 2015	#5
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Having the word wild as part of the name suggests that this is a tiny currant type, as in S. pimpinellifolium, but that's not true at all and it was Johnny's who first introduced it so here's the link http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-7932-ma...ld-cherry.aspx At the lower right where it says Quick Facts you can see that it's a normal S lycopersicon, var cerasiforme, that last word indicating it's a cherry. Personally I don't like the taste of matt's at all, but the fact that it's a regular non wild variety opens the door to many many cherries and lots that I think have much better taste. Are you looking just for larger red cherries, as you kind of implied above or any colored cherries.? There are several threads here at Tville that are all about fave cherries that you can do a search for, or perhaps I could or someone else, or I could indicate which ones I prefer, red or any colored ones that would be bigger than Matt's. Actually there is one I love that is red, a bit bigger than Matt's that Tania highly praises and so do I that does have some parentage of a wild one and that's: http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Sara%27s_Galapagos Hope the above helps. Carolyn __________________ Carolyn

August 2, 2015	#9
luigiwu Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: ny Posts: 1,219	I lost my first response to this, argh - but thank you so much guys, I knew you would come through for me! Sara's Galapagos is now on next years grow list! Robert, Yes please to the larger Matt's you are finding. Caroline, I thought Matt's had a great full-bodied flavor for such a tiny fruit! I know a lot o people has talked about reinsentraube too so maybe next year will be the year to try that. Ted, if I can't find the seeds I might have to take you up on that offer! __________________ Subirrigated Container gardening (RGGS) in NY, Zone 7!

August 2, 2015	#10
ContainerTed Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 6a - NE Tennessee Posts: 4,538	I'll have some seed fresh from this season in a few days. Why don't you PM your address and I'll get those out to you. __________________ Ted ________________________ Owner & Sole Operator Of The Muddy Bucket Farm and Tomato Ranch

July 31, 2015	#2
KC.Sun Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: 6a Posts: 322	I was very tempted to buy seeds for this variety on Tania's site. When I decided to grow tomatoes this year, I was too late to grow from seed so I randomly bought some plants to transplant directly into my Earthboxes. I bought black cherry because I heard many good reviews on it. Brown Berry just to make the order. Coyote just because the name was interesting. Of the 3 cherry tomatoes I bought, coyote seems the bests so far. It's very prolific and similar in size to Matt's wild cherry. I like coyote because every tomato is a surprise. Some have a very good tomatoey flavor. Brown Berry was my most prolific and aggressive growing tomato this year. I can't really comment on the flavor yet. I think I need to let it ripen more. Black cherry was a disappointment. I was looking forward to trying them, but I was sent the wrong transplant. So I have a surprise mystery tomato I need to figure out what it is once it ripens. I really like the coyote. I couldn't stop eating those. I wasn't too excited about growing it when I saw bad reviews for it. But I guess for some, it's an acquired taste. Or possibly because they were really happy in the earthboxes? Still yet to be determined.

July 31, 2015	#3
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	Luigiwu. I grew three Matt's Wild Cherry plants this year. I think I got a cross in the seeds I grew. Two of the MWC plants grew fruit true, but one grew real cherry size tomatoes. They looked the same, tasted the same, and all three plants produced very heavily. I saved seeds from the larger sized only. I'll send you some MWC seeds when I send you squash seeds in about a month.

July 31, 2015	#4
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	I didn't even bother picking the one Matt's Wild Cherry plant I grew this year. In addition to the fruit being tiny, they also burst if you give them a dirty look. I never made it back home with any fruit that didn't get crushed.