DAVE'S SEEDS AND PLANTS

vegetal87 · August 28, 2007

hello, i want to know your impressions about the DAVE'S SEEDS AND PLANTS company.

their prices are low but i haven't nothing informations.

many thanks for your help

**carolyn137** · August 28, 2007

This being Tomatoville I read through only the tomato selections.

Many that are called rare are not rare at all and are found at several different seed sources, some of which do ship to Europe.

I also found that the histories of many are not correct. Brandywine is not 250 years old. Arkansas Traveler is not an old heirloom variety; it was bred by the U of Arkansas. Just a couple of examples. Lillian Lemon should be Lillian's Yellow Heirloom. And there are many other errors.

But I don't know who can speak to seed purity or seed germination for that site.

I admit I'm very wary of e-bay offers although some have turned out OK for folks.

You already have several seed sources in Europe that are great. If you don't know them I'm sure folks here can tell you about them.

There are also several US sites with very good reputations that will ship to Europe.

A couple of them are:

tomatogrowers.com
sandhillpreservation.com

And there are more. But with those two companies alone you'd have close to 1000 different tomato varieties to chose from and in general seed purity, germination, information at those sites and service, are excellent.

No company that deals with open pollinated varieties has a perfect record when it comes to seed purity, just b'c of the nature of open pollinated versus hybrid seed production.

So if you like to bid on seeds, are comfortable dealing with e-bay and feel that seed purity and germination is good, then why not try a few varieties.

If it were me I'd go with standard well known seed sources. But that's me.

vegetal87 · August 28, 2007

tank's a lot for your answer, i'm agree with your opinion.
i have just saw many good opinions on daves garden site.

but i note tomato growers.
sandhile doesn't accept payment by card i think.

many thanks.

cottonpicker · August 28, 2007

vegetal87.... you might take a look at: www.tomatsidan.sc
in Sweden. I've ordered from there with good results.

LarryD

**tomatoaddict** · August 28, 2007

Carolyn,
Your info on the errors about some heirlooms is interesting.
I would love to see a thread about mis-information. I'm not saying that you personally should do it as I know you are healing. It would be nice to have something like that.

How's the not smoking going? lol

**carolyn137** · August 28, 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomatoaddict

Carolyn,
Your info on the errors about some heirlooms is interesting.
I would love to see a thread about mis-information. I'm not saying that you personally should do it as I know you are healing. It would be nice to have something like that.

How's the not smoking going? lol

One thread about all the misinformation out there would never work b'c there IS so much misinformation.

Years ago I would e-mail some sites and try to be helpful. Some appreciated it and others didn't.

How is the smoking going? Just fine thank you.

**tomatoaddict** · August 28, 2007

I figured that if there was a thread about mis-info, that there are always those that want to argue a point and the thread would end up being nothing but a huge argument. Which is a shame because it would be nice if alot of bogus info could be cleared up .

babylark · September 26, 2007

I've bought seeds from Dave and had very good sucess with germination. The seeds seemed true to description. They were generous and quick to ship. I was one of his first customers on ebay. He was also VERY helpful with advise on growing.

feldon30 · September 26, 2007

Italian frying peppers are GREAT and I encourage anyone (especially in Texas) who will listen to grow them.

kygreg · October 22, 2007

I ordered from them the first time this year; timely deleivery and good quantity of seeds; I have not grown any out and can not address that; most of the reviews on ebay, of course, deal with product and delivery and not how true they grow out; this would be true for any seed seller; I gave a positive review and would order again.

August 28, 2007	#1
vegetal87 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: france Posts: 35	DAVE'S SEEDS AND PLANTS hello, i want to know your impressions about the DAVE'S SEEDS AND PLANTS company. their prices are low but i haven't nothing informations. many thanks for your help

August 28, 2007	#2
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	This being Tomatoville I read through only the tomato selections. Many that are called rare are not rare at all and are found at several different seed sources, some of which do ship to Europe. I also found that the histories of many are not correct. Brandywine is not 250 years old. Arkansas Traveler is not an old heirloom variety; it was bred by the U of Arkansas. Just a couple of examples. Lillian Lemon should be Lillian's Yellow Heirloom. And there are many other errors. But I don't know who can speak to seed purity or seed germination for that site. I admit I'm very wary of e-bay offers although some have turned out OK for folks. You already have several seed sources in Europe that are great. If you don't know them I'm sure folks here can tell you about them. There are also several US sites with very good reputations that will ship to Europe. A couple of them are: tomatogrowers.com sandhillpreservation.com And there are more. But with those two companies alone you'd have close to 1000 different tomato varieties to chose from and in general seed purity, germination, information at those sites and service, are excellent. No company that deals with open pollinated varieties has a perfect record when it comes to seed purity, just b'c of the nature of open pollinated versus hybrid seed production. So if you like to bid on seeds, are comfortable dealing with e-bay and feel that seed purity and germination is good, then why not try a few varieties. If it were me I'd go with standard well known seed sources. But that's me. __________________ Carolyn

August 28, 2007	#4
cottonpicker Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge Posts: 839	vegetal87.... you might take a look at: www.tomatsidan.sc in Sweden. I've ordered from there with good results. LarryD __________________ "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause". Victor Hugo

August 28, 2007	#5
tomatoaddict Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: zone 5 Posts: 1,459	Carolyn, Your info on the errors about some heirlooms is interesting. I would love to see a thread about mis-information. I'm not saying that you personally should do it as I know you are healing. It would be nice to have something like that. How's the not smoking going? lol __________________ Secretseedcartel.com

August 28, 2007	#7
tomatoaddict Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: zone 5 Posts: 1,459	I figured that if there was a thread about mis-info, that there are always those that want to argue a point and the thread would end up being nothing but a huge argument. Which is a shame because it would be nice if alot of bogus info could be cleared up . __________________ Secretseedcartel.com

September 26, 2007	#8
babylark Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lebanon, PA • Zone 6a Posts: 145	I've bought seeds from Dave and had very good sucess with germination. The seeds seemed true to description. They were generous and quick to ship. I was one of his first customers on ebay. He was also VERY helpful with advise on growing. __________________ I can not be held responsible for anything typed above, as I believe my Corgis have learned to type!

September 26, 2007	#9
feldon30 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,346	Italian frying peppers are GREAT and I encourage anyone (especially in Texas) who will listen to grow them. __________________ [SIZE="3"]I've relaunched my gardening website -- [B]TheUnconventionalTomato.com[/B][/SIZE] * [I][SIZE="1"]*I'm not allowed to post weblinks so you'll have to copy-paste it manually.[/SIZE][/I]

October 22, 2007	#10
kygreg Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: kentucky Posts: 1,019	dave's seed and garde I ordered from them the first time this year; timely deleivery and good quantity of seeds; I have not grown any out and can not address that; most of the reviews on ebay, of course, deal with product and delivery and not how true they grow out; this would be true for any seed seller; I gave a positive review and would order again.