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April 21, 2017 | #1 |
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Growing out my first ever cross......years later!
I have made numerous crosses in the last several years but the very first one i ever made has been overlooked until this year. I totally forgot about this poor guy until i saw it in the masses of seed i have piling up around here. The first parent in this cross is from a F3 growout of an experimental hybrid some of us grew a few years back called 3C57 from Frogsleap farms. It was originally a cherry tomato similar to Lucky Tiger but with antho shoulders. The second parent is a volunteer plant my kids found out back by their swingset a year before i ever grew tomatoes in the ground on my property. I really have no idea what it could have been but it was a red round tomato similar to a better boy. Im growing 6 plants with 5 being RL and 1 being PL. The foliage types vary quite a bit with the RL plants. I am really liking the shape and speckling/streaking of the PL plant thus far. Anyway here are some pics of the progress so far.
This is plant 1 PL
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April 21, 2017 | #2 |
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Plant 2 RL
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April 21, 2017 | #3 |
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Plant 3 RL
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April 21, 2017 | #4 |
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Plant 4 RL
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April 21, 2017 | #5 |
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Plant 5 RL
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April 21, 2017 | #6 |
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Plant 6 RL
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April 21, 2017 | #7 |
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April 21, 2017 | #8 |
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Will do Jimbo. The shape and speckling/streaking is really catching my attention on that on plus its Potato Leaf. If it tastes as good as it looks it should be a real winner. Of course it is too far from segregated at this point to get to excited.
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April 21, 2017 | #9 |
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Well I'll be excited for ya then !. Bet there will be some awesome one in there.. Jimbo
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April 22, 2017 | #10 |
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Im excited but i also know that after several generations of trying to grow these crosses out losing one to bad taste or selecting one that is mealy really can be frustrating. Its the thrill of the chase!
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April 22, 2017 | #11 |
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Yeah those speckles are really pretty! And the shape of the others is good looking too.
Personally I have loved growing the F1's from unstable-parent crosses and got the best results in terms of flavor and plain old excitement of seeing how different they are and of getting surprises in the mix... good surprises! I'm growing out a couple of side cross F1's this year too, that got passed over for a few seasons. It's nice to give em a chance... Fingers crossed for Mr. Speckly there, to be delish and smooth! |
April 30, 2017 | #12 | |
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For example, when you did the cross, how many "flowers" did you pollinate to make sure you would have enough F1 to work with. HELP! i am a real beginner with this and any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. |
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April 30, 2017 | #13 |
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creating a hybrid
I am planning to do a cross for the first time this summer. Cornue des Andes with Black Cherry. I am a real novice. The first question I have is how many "flowers" do you pollinate to make sure you will have enough f1 to work with.
any thoughts, advice greatly appreciated. thanks all!! |
April 30, 2017 | #14 |
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How's are maters HTG?.. Jimbo
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