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Old March 7, 2011   #1
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Default Any information on these varieties?

Presented with an interesting trade list - can't locate info on these - Any info?

Bernardini
Bertona
Chio chio san
DX53-12
Gary's Golden Bear

Monteverde
Montserrat


Red Dawn
Red Pearl
Reine De Saint Marthe

Reinhard

Repreco Paste


Turkistan


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Check out the Tomodori site. They have some of them. Ami

http://tomodori.com/tomato.php
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Check out the Tomodori site. They have some of them. Ami

http://tomodori.com/tomato.php
Ami, info yes, but do not sell seeds.

Almost every time I use Tomodori to locate a variety I get directed to Ventmarin, so these days I start at Ventmarin first, easily accessed via Google.

Some of those on the list like to the two M ones can also be found via normal Googling, I've grown one or both, I can't remember.

I don't think any of them are Legacy varieties so I wonder if posting this in the GEneral Discussion area might work better unless folks see this thread and answer.

Just looking quickly in my 2011 SSE YEarbook, Reine de Ste.Marthe is a small round red and Reinhard's is also a small round red and Ropreco, aka Ropreco Paste is a long red paste with a nipple and Red Dawn is a small round red.

But I don't have time to look up all the others. Sorry.
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Ami, info yes, but do not sell seeds.
"HUH"? Maybe it's early.
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Chio-Chio-San midseason, indet. (120-150 cm tall) regular leaf plant with a very good yield of pink, small egg-shaped 30-40 g fruits, born in clusters of 10-30, very nice taste 140/40 from Russian CV Gavrish 5 seeds
from Andrey's list... Patty
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"HUH"? Maybe it's early.
Early for me, for sure, so where do I click at Tomodori to find seeds for sale. I never really looked since I was told that seeds aren't sold there, same as at Ventmarin.

Could that info be wrong?
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Thanks folks - I winnowed my list down using sources I knew before querying. I knew more than a few of y'all would have the info quick as whips - Thank you!

ps - if you want to move the thread I would appreciate it!

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Carolyn, this was the question.

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Presented with an interesting trade list - can't locate info on these - Any info?
I don't see anything in the above concerning buying seeds. Ami
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Check out the Tomodori site. They have some of them. Ami
I finally get it now.....

Tomodori has some information (ie. links to the varieties) on their site.
I guess C. read it as they have some of them for sale which they don't.....

I mostly use that site to see what tomato names have already been spoken for!

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Carolyn, this was the question.



I don't see anything in the above concerning buying seeds. Ami
Right, nothing was said about buying seeds but from time to time folks do ask if they can buy seeds at Tomodori or Ventmarin, so I've been in the habit of saying no seeds sold at either one.
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Monte Verde is an open pollinated tomato from the North Carolina State University program where Dr. Randy Gardner was a tomato breeder.

Monte Verde is the result of a cross between Florida Dade and Summit, another NCSU tomato.

Monte Verde was popular with commercial tomato growers in southern Virginia, but the variety no longer is available as seed from Ferry-Morse, to whom it was first released, nor from Harris Moran seed company to whom it was released in 1997 as a PVP.

Monte Verde is a vigorous determinate with glossy red fruit hanging on a jointless pedicel under ample foliage cover. The unripened fruit has a dark green shoulder.

Monte Verde produces smooth fruit with small blossom scars and is notably resistant to cracking, weather checking and catfacing. The fruit size, color, quality and yield are similar to Colonial hybrid tomato, a variety that still is available, I suppose as a replacement if you are looking for a comparable variety.

I've seen reports that Monte Verde is quite susceptible to Early Blight.

I would be interested in where you found a source for Monte Verde, as I have not been able to find it at any commercial vendor.

However, now that I realize you've paired Monte Verde with Montserrat http://www.gourmandbreaks.com/blog/s...rrat-tomatoes/, a Spanish tomato, you probably are talking about an entirely different Monte Verde which may be why you spelled it Monteverde.

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wow Travis - I want Monte Verde now too! No, what I was shown was listed as Monteverde - though I suppose translation could result in condensation - we'll see b/c I asked for it in trade!
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