Heat Tolerant GWR Green When Ripe

strawbaleking · September 2, 2020

Hi, I recently had some Cherokee Green tomatoes and I had never had a GWR before.

WOW! My son and I were amazed at how good the flavor AND texture was.

I did also grow a Chef's Choice Green but it got the wilts 2 weeks ago in Aug. and died very quickly (in a new 10 gal gro bag with new potting soil). The CCG hybrid was ok but also small fruit thick skin and not great texture.
The Cherokee is alive but not much left after August leaf disease party.

So, what medium/large not too ribbed slicer GWR that is heat tolerant (dry California) that will set with help from shade cloth and electric toothbrush (this really helped alot with set on my other tomatoes) , and is somewhat leaf disease tolerant?

KathyDC · September 2, 2020

Maybe try Taiga? It is technically a large tricolor heart, but primarily looks green/yellow when ripe, with a small amount of red in the interior. It did well here in humid sunny metro DC, no disease issues that I have seen, and even the usual soft-bodied pests like aphids didn't seem too interested.

strawbaleking · September 2, 2020

Thanks Kathy.
I'll check Taiga out. I have to grow in large containers. Since it's a heart, have you seen any BER blossom end rot issues?
Is it juicy?

KathyDC · September 3, 2020

I haven't, but I haven't seen any BER in any of my plants since I started using a fertilizer called Texas Tomato Food. So I wouldn't necessarily attribute that to the plant itself.

The flesh is meaty, and very few seeds.

It's bred by KarenO, who posts here, and you can see a good bit more about the tomato (and her other tomatoes) in this thread: http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...iga#post759267

Happy browsing!

habitat_gardener · September 3, 2020

I’m growing Cherokee Green as well as Green Gables this summer.
CG is larger.
GG Is much more productive.
I like them both, and the flavor is similar; CG might be a tad sweeter.

sic transit gloria · September 4, 2020

I think Green Giant is the best all-around GWR. Malachite Box is a very close second. I have not grown Taiga, but would like to.

sjamesNorway · September 5, 2020

I second Green Giant, which does well in my often hot greenhouse. Taste and production are great.

Steve

Master Shake · September 5, 2020

I have Craig LeHoullier's 'EPIC Tomatoes' book (it's a great book

) and he rates Green Giant slightly above Cherokee Green.

I'm still a relative novice at growing tomatoes but already have about 100 varieties of seeds to try but something about the look of green tomatoes has turned me off, and thus i haven't tried to grow any yet.

I have noticed that a LOT of people's favourite tomatoes are green tomatoes.... So, how does the flavour of excellent green tomatoes differ from excellent red, black, brown, orange etc. tomatoes?

If you were blindfolded, would you be able to pick out GWR green tomatoes?

Thanks for any explanation.

sjamesNorway · September 5, 2020

I think I could tell the difference if blindfolded. The GWRs I've tried have been sweet, but the characteristic that really sets them apart is spiciness.

Steve

NarnianGarden · September 8, 2020

Yeah, it is the spicy, earthy and also fruity aromas (at least in those GWRs I have tried)..

LK2016 · September 9, 2020

My first (and only so far) GWR tomato was Tasty Evergreen, and wow, was I surprised by the yumminess! It's really a limy amber when ripe, and it is sweet, spicy, very tasty. Growing in small container, so only got a few fruits and I've no idea how productive it would be in-ground, but it does load up with flowers, and withstood heat very well. All around, a total Yes. I'm looking forward to trying Green Giant, Cherokee Green, and others at some point.

tryno12 · September 9, 2020

Does Aunt Ruby's German Green get a vote?

I think pretty good.

tryno12 · September 9, 2020

Does Aunt Ruby's German Green get a vote?

I think pretty good.

Whwoz · September 9, 2020

MS ( aka Malachite Box) and Grubs Mystery Green have done well for me here, particularly 2 years ago when we had a good long hot Aussie summer with lots of days above 90F. The key to getting lots of fruit at those temperatures is low humidity, one of the MS plants would have had over 50 fruit, all good size.

KarenO · September 9, 2020

You might like Taiga, Fred Hempel has been growing it to sell for a couple of years now in California and it seems to do very well there for him.
Seeds would be available for it on his Artisan Seeds website. I’ve never seen BER on any of my hearts or most hearts in general. Plums/Pastes, for sure.
If you want a beefsteak, I would say captain lucky is the best green ripe tomato I’ve ever tasted. For solid green, I would recommend green giant and malachite box
KarenO

September 2, 2020	#1
strawbaleking Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 31	Heat Tolerant GWR Green When Ripe Hi, I recently had some Cherokee Green tomatoes and I had never had a GWR before. WOW! My son and I were amazed at how good the flavor AND texture was. I did also grow a Chef's Choice Green but it got the wilts 2 weeks ago in Aug. and died very quickly (in a new 10 gal gro bag with new potting soil). The CCG hybrid was ok but also small fruit thick skin and not great texture. The Cherokee is alive but not much left after August leaf disease party. So, what medium/large not too ribbed slicer GWR that is heat tolerant (dry California) that will set with help from shade cloth and electric toothbrush (this really helped alot with set on my other tomatoes) , and is somewhat leaf disease tolerant?

September 3, 2020	#4
KathyDC Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Suburban Washington, DC (Zone 7A) Posts: 347	I haven't, but I haven't seen any BER in any of my plants since I started using a fertilizer called Texas Tomato Food. So I wouldn't necessarily attribute that to the plant itself. The flesh is meaty, and very few seeds. It's bred by KarenO, who posts here, and you can see a good bit more about the tomato (and her other tomatoes) in this thread: http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...iga#post759267 Happy browsing! Last edited by KathyDC; September 3, 2020 at 01:24 PM.

September 3, 2020	#5
habitat_gardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Central Valley Posts: 2,543	I’m growing Cherokee Green as well as Green Gables this summer. CG is larger. GG Is much more productive. I like them both, and the flavor is similar; CG might be a tad sweeter.

September 4, 2020	#6
sic transit gloria Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KS 5b/6a Posts: 249	I think Green Giant is the best all-around GWR. Malachite Box is a very close second. I have not grown Taiga, but would like to.

September 5, 2020	#7
sjamesNorway Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 1,049	I second Green Giant, which does well in my often hot greenhouse. Taste and production are great. Steve

September 5, 2020	#8
Master Shake Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: australia Posts: 117	I have Craig LeHoullier's 'EPIC Tomatoes' book (it's a great book ) and he rates Green Giant slightly above Cherokee Green. I'm still a relative novice at growing tomatoes but already have about 100 varieties of seeds to try but something about the look of green tomatoes has turned me off, and thus i haven't tried to grow any yet. I have noticed that a LOT of people's favourite tomatoes are green tomatoes.... So, how does the flavour of excellent green tomatoes differ from excellent red, black, brown, orange etc. tomatoes? If you were blindfolded, would you be able to pick out GWR green tomatoes? Thanks for any explanation.

September 8, 2020	#10
NarnianGarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Finland, EU Posts: 2,550	Yeah, it is the spicy, earthy and also fruity aromas (at least in those GWRs I have tried)..

September 9, 2020	#11
LK2016 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Northeast USA Posts: 68	My first (and only so far) GWR tomato was Tasty Evergreen, and wow, was I surprised by the yumminess! It's really a limy amber when ripe, and it is sweet, spicy, very tasty. Growing in small container, so only got a few fruits and I've no idea how productive it would be in-ground, but it does load up with flowers, and withstood heat very well. All around, a total Yes. I'm looking forward to trying Green Giant, Cherokee Green, and others at some point.

September 9, 2020	#12
tryno12 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Indianapolis Area 46112 Posts: 857	Does Aunt Ruby's German Green get a vote? I think pretty good.

September 9, 2020	#14
Whwoz Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 870	MS ( aka Malachite Box) and Grubs Mystery Green have done well for me here, particularly 2 years ago when we had a good long hot Aussie summer with lots of days above 90F. The key to getting lots of fruit at those temperatures is low humidity, one of the MS plants would have had over 50 fruit, all good size.

September 9, 2020	#15
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	You might like Taiga, Fred Hempel has been growing it to sell for a couple of years now in California and it seems to do very well there for him. Seeds would be available for it on his Artisan Seeds website. I’ve never seen BER on any of my hearts or most hearts in general. Plums/Pastes, for sure. If you want a beefsteak, I would say captain lucky is the best green ripe tomato I’ve ever tasted. For solid green, I would recommend green giant and malachite box KarenO