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Old April 12, 2020   #1
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Potted up the The F4 growout of my six selections today. The amber and GWR striped saladette size on the 14” dwarfs, the gs red and yellow on yellow saladettes on the small indeterminate dwarfs and the red and the yellow striped semideterminate highly branched non Rugose dwarfs .
Looking forward to seeing how they do this year. They are really Cute and very tiny little seedlings at this early stage.
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Old April 13, 2020   #2
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I love the micros at such a young, small size. Good luck with the F4's. Can't wait to see them develop for you.
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Old April 21, 2020   #3
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Big difference and growing well already after a week potted up in the greenhouse.
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F4 of my non Rugose dwarfs already showing their unusual early branching. These are 2.5” pots for scale and they just have their Second set of leaves and they are already suckering.
My two selections from the F3 of these last year were a sweet red and a matching yellow gs cherry on highly branching semi determinate plants with short internodes.
I’m happy to see these unusual features again already in these small seedlings. Ive not personally seen a tomato sucker so fast, ever. The branching habit made them very productive last year and I am Hoping for a repeat.
I think they have potential to be great for baskets
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Looking great Karen! Short, sweet and early sounds right up my street .

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Looking great Karen! Short, sweet and early sounds right up my street .

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Thank you Linda! They sure are fun to grow
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Old May 1, 2020   #7
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May 1, F4 selections are growing nicely.
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beautiful plants growing so well so quickly!
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Look at all those happy little trees!


Nice job, Karen!



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Are those Micro's or regular Dwarf's
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Are those Micro's or regular Dwarf's
Some of each,but they are all small plants. the non micros in the short and sweet project are small determinate and indeterminate dwarfs, max of about 3’
To illustrate, On the Left a potato leaf dwarf of mine , on the right is a dwarf from the Short and sweets. Both planted the same day.
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"on the right is a dwarf from the Short and sweets. Both planted the same day" from post #11 , so I Assume that means the one on the right is a micro dwarf that you are calling a dwarf?

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I said they are all small dwarfs. The “micro” selections I am working on, an Amber and a gwr gs striped saladette are determinate and top out at about 14” the indeterminate selections are small delicate dwarfs plants that grew to a max of about 3 feet. the plant on the left in this photo is a dwarf of mine as well, but a large dwarf that is not from the short and sweet project. I used it to illustrate that these are small dwarfs in my short and sweet project but may not meet somebody else’s definition of micro so I don’t use that term necessarily. There is no standard definition really although personally I think anything under 2 feet at full maturity is a very small dwarf.
I don’t care much about labels of micro this or that. People get hung up on definitions and imo breeding for a specific height limits many other factors which I think explains why most micros are cute, very similar and Totally blah from my experience.
I am breeding small dwarfs, something different from the dozens of red and yellow Microdwarf cherries that are hard to tell apart for me.
If interested in what selections these F4’s are from, there are lots of photos from the original short and sweet thread of the F3’s
It’s not my goal whatsoever to do what everyone else is doing. My primary goal for these is flavour in a small dwarf. Whether that meets whatever definition of micro somebody uses is not important.
Some will. Obviously the indeterminate selections will not but they were selected for other criteria.

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Thanks Karen, Got it now. I probably should have researched your earlier short and sweet posts/works. I have grown some of Dan's crosses and thought that you were growing some micro's but now see small dwarfs - that's a good idea for sure: a little larger plant and better tasting.
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Thanks for your interest, I’ll post more as the season progresses.
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