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I've searched the Internet for Matina's history, but all I've found (including at Tatiana's) is that it's a German heirloom. Does anyone have more information? What's the earliest-known publication that mentions it?
Carolyn mentions it here as early as March 2006. That's the earliest written mention of it I've found here, so far. There's a DG review from 25 Jul 2005, and a seedling picture there dated 3 Apr 2005. EDIT: I wanted to know because someone I know who is planning to grow it asked me if it was an heirloom, and I know not everyone has the same definition of an heirloom (so I was going to tell him how long it had been around, just in case he had a particular definition in mind). Last edited by shule1; May 16, 2017 at 10:11 PM. |
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Okay, I found a book published in 1999 that said it had been around for about 35 years (so, add 18 to that): 100 Heirloom Tomatoes for the American Garden, 1999, p. 164. It looks like Carolyn wrote it.
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I had heard about Carolyn's book quite a lot, but I never actually bought it (until now). I found the information about Matina from a Google Books preview (fortunately, that was one of the pages it previewed).
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I have grown Matina and Stupice one season together, as recommended as "EARLY" varieties. Matina was not that early. Both of them had PL top.
I liked Matina better. I think I had one of the worst strains of Stupice.
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http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=6839
It known as Tamina in Europe and as Matina in America. Distributed in Europe by Satimex Quedlinburg GmbH seed company from Germany.
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I'm growing it from saved seed again this year (from some of the later fruits, this time; I have seeds from earlier ones, though, which I'll probably plant next year if this year's aren't as early). A friend is going to try two of my plants; so, I should get his take on it, too. I should probably try Stupice one of these years (I have seeds), but one thing I like about Matina is the size; it's one of my favorite tomato sizes, because they're not tiny, but people will often still snack on a whole one without much if any encouragement. I'm trying a bunch of other earlies, though, of various sizes. I'm hoping I like North Dakota Earliana a lot. |
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I do not think Tamina is the same as Matina. I also do not think the name Matina originated somewhere in the US.
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If it's not a US name, I'd probably guess the name is from somewhere in South America or France. That is a guess, though. Last edited by shule1; May 17, 2017 at 03:15 PM. |
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One is from Germany (then Bundesrepublik Deutschland) and the other is a short one from the first, behind the Iron Curtain from Germany (then the Deutsche Demokratich Republic.I do not understand why they should be from South America? Was that a joke attempt?
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I guess all tomatoes (sans maybe some wild species) originated in South America, though, if that's what you meant. Thanks for the information. ![]() Last edited by shule1; May 17, 2017 at 06:13 PM. |
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Tania has it pretty much right
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Matina And yes,it is one of the varieties in my tomato book and my source was Bill Malin who got it from a German Seed Bank and I assume that was the seedbank at Gatersleben, Germany. Another well known variety that came from Gatersleben was this one http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Riesentraube It was Curtis Choplin in FL who got it from Gatersleben and passed it around. My source was Craig L who got it from Curtis and sent seeds to me. Carolyn
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I remember Matina had a consistent uniform fruits size, bigger than large cherry. It is in saladett and cocktail size category. So you can eat them whole without slicing. Stupice, on the other hand has inconsistent fruit size. The strain That I grew before had a fruit growth habit just like regular cherry tomatoe, along a single stem cluster. The fruit sized got smaller and smaller toward the end of cluster.. But I am growing a different strain this year. Its fruit growth habit is normal, nothing like cherries. . BTW. I am picking some ripe ones. It is 115 days from seed, 60 days from plant out.
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