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February 12, 2007 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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future hybrid projects?
This dwarf project is starting to take shape to me after weeks of reading a bit now and then. Very interesting, except that I'm more interested in giants...
So, I am wondering what projects might be looming in the future? |
February 12, 2007 | #2 |
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Well, go for it! I haven't tried the art of crossing....but if you are looking for biggies, Cuostralee X Mortgage Lifter could be interesting!
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February 12, 2007 | #3 |
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Yeah, that could make a big one!
I'm not making a suggestion, though - just wondering if there are any plans brewing? If not, what are some suggestions? I haven't tried crossing before, either, but I'm eager to learn. Last edited by johno; April 18, 2007 at 02:46 PM. |
March 28, 2010 | #4 |
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Sounds like an idea for a new project page to me! The "Giant" Project!
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March 28, 2010 | #5 |
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I wonder what would be better, crossing large varieties only or mixing in varieties that tend to put out mega blooms.
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March 29, 2010 | #6 |
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Varieties with genetically extra large fruit, yellow epidermis and fasciated flowers is what you'd want to start with. You could use pink varieties, with clear epidermis, so long as you cross to a parent with yellow epidermis to obtain more elastic skin. The Mountain Series has some jumbo parent lines but the blossoms are not fasciated so seldom produce fused/multiple ova.
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March 29, 2010 | #7 | |
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I'm trying to wrap my head around the whole breeding, genetics, crossing thing, but it's like a career's worth of education. Science was not my best subject. Thanks!
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March 29, 2010 | #8 |
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Well obviously you want to start with extra large fruit. That's just a step up right out of the chute.
Then most of the record tomatoes seem to be those grown from "mega-blooms" which are two or more blossoms fused together at the ova. Fasciated blossoms are more common with some varieties, so you want to concentrate on those types. The reason I mention yellow epidermis is because it is more elastic than clear epidermis and you increase your chances of fruit with fewer splits and cracks that might lead to deterioration before harvest and weigh-in. |
March 30, 2010 | #9 |
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VERY interesting... good assumptions thae way you explained it. Never hard of the mega-blooms, and the dermis idea is intriguing. Thanks.
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March 31, 2010 | #10 |
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Late night reading: http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/full/158/1/413
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