Galina's Yellow x Grub's Mystery Green F2

Raymondo · November 18, 2008

Five F2s planted out. All are from the #2 F1 plant. From this cross, we should be able to isolate a nice largish yellow (colour from Galina's Yellow and size from Grub's Mystery Green) and a green cherry (colour from Grub's Mystery Green and cherry habit from Galina's Yellow). I'm looking forward to this one.

Raymondo · December 4, 2008

The five are now about 30cm (1') tall, blossoming and very healthy. I'll post some pics in a day or so.

PNW_D · December 4, 2008

Watching this one closely Ray - thought it worth mentioning that I am still eating fresh tomatoes off my GxGMG

Happened to be out in the "back forty"

the other day and noticed a few of the green ones (I didn't have the heart to pull the plant) had started to ripen - brought them inside and within a few days had a wee taste of fresh picked tomatoes once again. Considering our weather (cool, wet) I was surprised at the still yummy flavour.

Raymondo · December 5, 2008

Here's one of the little beauties:

The others look almost identical.

tessa · December 7, 2008

looks great, ray.
really interested in hearing how these turn out.
it's fascinating to think that it can produce both large fruit...and also cherries.
wow.
mind boggling.

Raymondo · January 17, 2009

Time for an update. The five plants continue to power ahead ignoring the disease problems of their patch partners. One appears to have cherry type fruit and the others are beefsteak types though all rather small.
Of all my tomatoes this year, these have been the least trouble and in fact have done very well. Looking forward to trying the ripe fruit.

PNW_D · January 17, 2009

Good news re hardiness of this one Ray, let's hope the flavour stays with F2 .....

And, just to keep everything together, here's how my 2008 grow out of F1 progressed

http://t-garden.homeip.net/mwiki/ind..._Mystery_Green

akgardengirl · January 17, 2009

I can't wait to see how well it does in Alaska this season. It will be great if it produces as good as Galina does here. I did not do so well (like nothing!) with Grub's MG but it was an exceptionally poor summer.
Sue

Raymondo · March 3, 2009

All five plants have now given up their fruit for tasting and seed. No pics I'm afraid.
#1 - medium golden yellow beefsteak with mild but pleasant flavour
#2 & #3 - small golden yellow globes, bigger than a cherry, good tomatoey flavour. The first outproduced the second but not by much and flavour was the same.
#4 - a small to medium flattish green globe with amber skin. Quite tart flavour.
#5 - small green globes with amber skin, very pleasant sweet/acid balance. Bigger than a cherry.
So, we got close to the two objectives - a tasty yellow beefsteak and a tasty green cherry. I'd like to grow #1 & #5 for a couple of seasons to see what eventuates. If we get no closer to the goals I would suggest a couple of backcrosses: #1 x GMG in an attempt to bring some of GMG's great flavour into a yellow beefsteak and #5 x GY to get the cherry size.

**Lee** · March 3, 2009

Great job Ray. Looks like you've got a couple of winners there. You may find that flavor still lurks in the F3 or even F4
generation for #1. At least that was my experience when
growing out F4s and later from Craig's F3 growouts of his line that produced Lucky Cross/Little Lucky.

Lee

PNW_D · March 10, 2009

Ray,

Just curious, did any of the above ripen earlier than the rest?

Raymondo · March 12, 2009

I agree Lee. Lots could be lurking in these tomatoes. Flavour is such a difficult one as you know. First of all it's personal perception, then of course the environment plays a significant role.

Yes D, the yellows all ripened before the greens. #2 just beat #1 and #3, then came #4 and bringing up the rear was #5. Even so, it was a pretty close race. I find that in my shortish season everything tends to ripen together anyway so we're not talking many days here.

akgardengirl · August 23, 2009

My Grub's x Galinas are starting to ripen fast now. So far my results for plant #1 are consistent with Ray's --bright yellow/gold, small beefsteak shape and light taste. Plant #2 (2 ea.) are green when ripe with slight amber blush, round shape, green seed gel and the taste is very good. All 3 plants have been productive.
Sue

Sherry_AK · August 23, 2009

I have 2 of these plants yet to produce ripe fruit. I'm thinking it's possible the last two might be green when ripe. I've posted my updates and photos (incorrectly) on the F1 thread. Oops!

So far the yellows have been very productive and all with good taste.

Sherry

akgardengirl · August 23, 2009

I should add that the amber blush is mostly around the base of the tomato. Yes Sherry, give those green ones a squeeze as mine stayed green even when even sitting for about 5 days in the house. My #2 fruits fit Ray's description of his #5's.
Sue

January 17, 2009	#6
Raymondo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saumarez Ponds, NSW, Australia Posts: 946	Time for an update. The five plants continue to power ahead ignoring the disease problems of their patch partners. One appears to have cherry type fruit and the others are beefsteak types though all rather small. Of all my tomatoes this year, these have been the least trouble and in fact have done very well. Looking forward to trying the ripe fruit. __________________ Ray

January 17, 2009	#7
PNW_D Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 961	Good news re hardiness of this one Ray, let's hope the flavour stays with F2 ..... And, just to keep everything together, here's how my 2008 grow out of F1 progressed http://t-garden.homeip.net/mwiki/ind..._Mystery_Green __________________ D.

March 3, 2009	#9
Raymondo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saumarez Ponds, NSW, Australia Posts: 946	All five plants have now given up their fruit for tasting and seed. No pics I'm afraid. #1 - medium golden yellow beefsteak with mild but pleasant flavour #2 & #3 - small golden yellow globes, bigger than a cherry, good tomatoey flavour. The first outproduced the second but not by much and flavour was the same. #4 - a small to medium flattish green globe with amber skin. Quite tart flavour. #5 - small green globes with amber skin, very pleasant sweet/acid balance. Bigger than a cherry. So, we got close to the two objectives - a tasty yellow beefsteak and a tasty green cherry. I'd like to grow #1 & #5 for a couple of seasons to see what eventuates. If we get no closer to the goals I would suggest a couple of backcrosses: #1 x GMG in an attempt to bring some of GMG's great flavour into a yellow beefsteak and #5 x GY to get the cherry size. __________________ Ray

March 3, 2009	#10
Lee Tomatopalooza™ Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC-Zone 7 Posts: 2,188	Great job Ray. Looks like you've got a couple of winners there. You may find that flavor still lurks in the F3 or even F4 generation for #1. At least that was my experience when growing out F4s and later from Craig's F3 growouts of his line that produced Lucky Cross/Little Lucky. Lee __________________ Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put one in a fruit salad. Cuostralee - The best thing on sliced bread.

March 10, 2009	#11
PNW_D Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 961	Ray, Just curious, did any of the above ripen earlier than the rest? __________________ D.

November 18, 2008	#1
Raymondo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saumarez Ponds, NSW, Australia Posts: 946	Galina's Yellow x Grub's Mystery Green F2 Five F2s planted out. All are from the #2 F1 plant. From this cross, we should be able to isolate a nice largish yellow (colour from Galina's Yellow and size from Grub's Mystery Green) and a green cherry (colour from Grub's Mystery Green and cherry habit from Galina's Yellow). I'm looking forward to this one. __________________ Ray Last edited by Raymondo; November 22, 2008 at 02:53 PM.

December 4, 2008	#2
Raymondo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saumarez Ponds, NSW, Australia Posts: 946	The five are now about 30cm (1') tall, blossoming and very healthy. I'll post some pics in a day or so. __________________ Ray

December 5, 2008	#4
Raymondo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saumarez Ponds, NSW, Australia Posts: 946	Here's one of the little beauties: The others look almost identical. __________________ Ray

December 7, 2008	#5
tessa Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: perth, western australia Posts: 1,031	looks great, ray. really interested in hearing how these turn out. it's fascinating to think that it can produce both large fruit...and also cherries. wow. mind boggling.

January 17, 2009	#8
akgardengirl Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Anchorage, AK zone 3/4 Posts: 1,410	I can't wait to see how well it does in Alaska this season. It will be great if it produces as good as Galina does here. I did not do so well (like nothing!) with Grub's MG but it was an exceptionally poor summer. Sue

March 12, 2009	#12
Raymondo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saumarez Ponds, NSW, Australia Posts: 946	I agree Lee. Lots could be lurking in these tomatoes. Flavour is such a difficult one as you know. First of all it's personal perception, then of course the environment plays a significant role. Yes D, the yellows all ripened before the greens. #2 just beat #1 and #3, then came #4 and bringing up the rear was #5. Even so, it was a pretty close race. I find that in my shortish season everything tends to ripen together anyway so we're not talking many days here. __________________ Ray

August 23, 2009	#13
akgardengirl Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Anchorage, AK zone 3/4 Posts: 1,410	My Grub's x Galinas are starting to ripen fast now. So far my results for plant #1 are consistent with Ray's --bright yellow/gold, small beefsteak shape and light taste. Plant #2 (2 ea.) are green when ripe with slight amber blush, round shape, green seed gel and the taste is very good. All 3 plants have been productive. Sue

August 23, 2009	#14
Sherry_AK Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alaska Zone 3/4 Posts: 1,857	I have 2 of these plants yet to produce ripe fruit. I'm thinking it's possible the last two might be green when ripe. I've posted my updates and photos (incorrectly) on the F1 thread. Oops! So far the yellows have been very productive and all with good taste. Sherry