fav organic materials

TightenUp · March 11, 2013

what are your favorite organic materials to mix into your garden and how long do you mix in before planting your tomatoes?

Redbaron · March 11, 2013

My fav is grass clippings and I just throw them on top. Hay leaves manure coffee grounds compost are all good too.

Alfredo · March 11, 2013

I usually grow several bush bean plants and borage throughout the growing season to till back into the garden in fall...I also add compost, dried leaves, used coffee grounds and grounded up roasted eggshells in the fall for the next spring/summer season. This year I'll be growing the cover crop combination of Peas/Oats in both spring and fall to till back into the garden for next year.

~Alfredo

habitat_gardener · March 12, 2013

A handful of alfalfa pellets in the bottom of the deep planting hole (immediately before planting, covered with a thin layer of soil), and foliar feed with seaweed (when I get around to it, later in the season).

This year I'm going to try rock dust (mixed with compost first), once I find a source.

jerryinfla · March 12, 2013

My favorite OM is compost that I make with spent mushroom substrate, shredded leaves, kitchen waste, garden debris, used coffee grounds, seaweeds, wood ashes and alfalfa pellets. I spread a couple of inches in the bed then broadfork it in about a week or so before I set out plants.

b54red · March 12, 2013

The two that I like the most are cottonseed meal and alfalfa pellets for two reasons. One they are very easy to handle and mix into the beds and two they are very high in fertilizer value. After that would be homemade compost, cow and chicken manure, and mushroom compost. One of the best things I ever used was a wagon load of ground peanut hulls. I had the most productive garden the year after I spread that stuff 6 inches deep over my whole garden and tilled it in. Alas I haven't been able to get anymore peanut hulls in 30 years but I still remember those 6 and 7 inch onions and those broccoli heads where some were 12 inches across. No matter what I have done since then I have never come close to matching the production I got the year after using the ground peanut hulls.

TightenUp · March 12, 2013

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Originally Posted by b54red

The two that I like the most are cottonseed meal and alfalfa pellets for two reasons. One they are very easy to handle and mix into the beds and two they are very high in fertilizer value. After that would be homemade compost, cow and chicken manure, and mushroom compost. One of the best things I ever used was a wagon load of ground peanut hulls. I had the most productive garden the year after I spread that stuff 6 inches deep over my whole garden and tilled it in. Alas I haven't been able to get anymore peanut hulls in 30 years but I still remember those 6 and 7 inch onions and those broccoli heads where some were 12 inches across. No matter what I have done since then I have never come close to matching the production I got the year after using the ground peanut hulls.

when do you typically add the cottonseed meal and alfalfa pellets?

Masbustelo · March 12, 2013

I work in horse manure and leaves in the fall, and add Alfalfa meal, hopefully about a week before the tomatoes go in. You have to watch it because it will heat up and burn the roots.

TightenUp · March 12, 2013

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Originally Posted by Masbustelo

You have to watch it because it will heat up and burn the roots.

i thought i've read about this happening and this was a concern. i was going to add about a month before plant out but was hoping to hear from others that use alfalfa meal, alfalfa pellets and cottonseed meal

b54red · March 13, 2013

I have found through trial and error that the alfalfa pellets need a bit more time in the ground than cottonseed meal before planting. I usually put them in anywhere from 2 weeks to a month early and make sure that they get watered a couple of times. I have planted the same day as I added the cottonseed meal and alfalfa pellets but if you do that you better give the plants a good full strength dose of the Miracle Grow formula that is high in nitrogen or your plants will have some yellowing for a few days. Cottonseed meal breaks down far faster than alfalfa pellets so it doesn't need as much wait time before planting and earthworms just love it. Adding cottonseed meal to your soil is like ringing the diner bell for earthworms.

They can both be added to mature plants as a top dressing if scratched into the soil and watered well with no harmful effects unless you add a huge amount at once. They both release their nutrients slowly so don't expect instant results. If you want to top dress organically and have very rapid results use some chicken manure or blood meal. When top dressing I like to add a bit of both cottonseed meal and chicken manure at the same time.

henry · March 13, 2013

We Use alfalfa pellets in our garlic fields, we spread the alfalfa pellets on the ground and then turn on the sprinklers for an hour or so the pellets swell up and break apart making them easy to till in the next day.

Barbee · March 13, 2013

I like Leonardite and Kelp Meal. I work them in about a week prior to planting. In the planting hole I use worm compost, tomato tone, and mycorrhizae.

John3 · March 13, 2013

I see some are using cottonseed and alfalfa pellets and peanut shells - does anyone use pecan shells?

FarmerShawn · March 13, 2013

I must say that my favorite organic material is whatever is available, plentiful, and free. Mix it up, apply liberally, and it's all good. At least that's so for the stuff that is available around here.
Shawn

Tonio · March 14, 2013

Is there much difference from alfalfa pellets, and alfalfa meal?

Alfalfa pellets- as in rabbit food? Only thing I see @ bog box stores has added vitamins that costs about $8 for 10lbs.

Assuming a feed store would have them in 50lb bags, is there anything to look out for?

March 11, 2013	#1
TightenUp Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Jersey Posts: 1,183	fav organic materials what are your favorite organic materials to mix into your garden and how long do you mix in before planting your tomatoes? __________________

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Redbaron Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 4,488	My fav is grass clippings and I just throw them on top. Hay leaves manure coffee grounds compost are all good too. __________________ Scott AKA The Redbaron "Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system." Bill Mollison co-founder of permaculture

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jerryinfla Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Central Florida Posts: 377	My favorite OM is compost that I make with spent mushroom substrate, shredded leaves, kitchen waste, garden debris, used coffee grounds, seaweeds, wood ashes and alfalfa pellets. I spread a couple of inches in the bed then broadfork it in about a week or so before I set out plants. __________________ Jerry - You only get old if you're lucky.

March 13, 2013	#11
henry Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Midway B.C. Canada Posts: 311	We Use alfalfa pellets in our garlic fields, we spread the alfalfa pellets on the ground and then turn on the sprinklers for an hour or so the pellets swell up and break apart making them easy to till in the next day. __________________ Henry

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Barbee Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 1,818	I like Leonardite and Kelp Meal. I work them in about a week prior to planting. In the planting hole I use worm compost, tomato tone, and mycorrhizae. __________________ *Barbee*

March 11, 2013	#3
Alfredo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Clifton, NJ Posts: 554	I usually grow several bush bean plants and borage throughout the growing season to till back into the garden in fall...I also add compost, dried leaves, used coffee grounds and grounded up roasted eggshells in the fall for the next spring/summer season. This year I'll be growing the cover crop combination of Peas/Oats in both spring and fall to till back into the garden for next year. ~Alfredo

March 12, 2013	#4
habitat_gardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Central Valley Posts: 2,543	A handful of alfalfa pellets in the bottom of the deep planting hole (immediately before planting, covered with a thin layer of soil), and foliar feed with seaweed (when I get around to it, later in the season). This year I'm going to try rock dust (mixed with compost first), once I find a source.

March 12, 2013	#6
b54red Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,068	The two that I like the most are cottonseed meal and alfalfa pellets for two reasons. One they are very easy to handle and mix into the beds and two they are very high in fertilizer value. After that would be homemade compost, cow and chicken manure, and mushroom compost. One of the best things I ever used was a wagon load of ground peanut hulls. I had the most productive garden the year after I spread that stuff 6 inches deep over my whole garden and tilled it in. Alas I haven't been able to get anymore peanut hulls in 30 years but I still remember those 6 and 7 inch onions and those broccoli heads where some were 12 inches across. No matter what I have done since then I have never come close to matching the production I got the year after using the ground peanut hulls.

March 12, 2013	#8
Masbustelo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Illinois Posts: 97	I work in horse manure and leaves in the fall, and add Alfalfa meal, hopefully about a week before the tomatoes go in. You have to watch it because it will heat up and burn the roots.

March 13, 2013	#13
John3 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alabama 7.5 or 8 depends on who you ask Posts: 727	I see some are using cottonseed and alfalfa pellets and peanut shells - does anyone use pecan shells?

March 13, 2013	#14
FarmerShawn Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,001	I must say that my favorite organic material is whatever is available, plentiful, and free. Mix it up, apply liberally, and it's all good. At least that's so for the stuff that is available around here. Shawn __________________ "Red meat is NOT bad for you. Now blue-green meat, THAT'S bad for you!" -- Tommy Smothers

March 14, 2013	#15
Tonio Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 148	Is there much difference from alfalfa pellets, and alfalfa meal? Alfalfa pellets- as in rabbit food? Only thing I see @ bog box stores has added vitamins that costs about $8 for 10lbs. Assuming a feed store would have them in 50lb bags, is there anything to look out for?