Campbell's Soup Seeds

Woodenzoo · February 4, 2006

While looking for some unrelated info, I came across this and wondered if anyone has tried them or has any opinions/thoughts about it.
http://www.campbellseeds.com/about/

**Mischka** · February 4, 2006

I used to grow Heinz 1370 faithfully every year for the taste.

I forgot to save seeds in 2005.

I don't see it in TGSC's catalog this year so I'm going to have to do some hunting.

I'm interested in trying more of the stabilized OP varieties that were bred by Heinz and Campbell Soup.

Woodenzoo · February 4, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by kctomato

A downfall with some are that they tend to ripen all at once (developed for mechanical havest).

Ah... sounds like good canning tomatoes!
I'll have to add this to my 'to try to grow list' for next year.
Thanks for the feedback KC and Mischka!

**nctomatoman** · February 4, 2006

Fred Dubose' book on tomatoes rates some of the Campbell and Heinz varieties. He rates Campbell 146 as the best flavored. I've had the seeds for years (probably too many years for them to germinate), from an SSE member, but have not grown it out.

clay199 · February 5, 2006

I ordered Campbells 1327, 1439 and Heinz 1350 from TGS and I am hoping for determinate type production. How many others are there available such as the Campbells 1370, 1943, and 170?

barkeater · February 5, 2006

Woodenzoo, I haven't tried the other ones (yet!), but Campbells 1327 is my favorite early tomato. Totally Tomatoes sells it, or if you e-mail me your address I can send you some seeds.

Catntree · February 5, 2006

I like Campbell's 1327 a lot.

Barkeater...I never considered it an early variety....what is the DTM of yours, roughly? Mine's about 80...maybe you have an earlier strain?

travis · February 5, 2006

"Heinz 1370 - Breeder and vendor: H.J. Heinz Co., Bowling Green, Ohio. Parentage: Cornell 55-539 x E.S. 54-1878-B. Characteristics: productive, determinate, fruit firm, crack resistant. Resistance: fusarium wilt. Adaptation: Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Ontario, Canada. 1962." [NCSU N. American Cultivar Lists]

Mischka,

Did you look for Heinz 1370 on that page in the printed catalog where TGS puts all their "less popular" seeds and sell them for one price ... I think it's back around page 54 or so. Sorry, I don't have a print catalog at home today. Or you can look for 1370 in their cross index and see if they give you a page number.

PV

cottonpicker · February 5, 2006

Heinz 1370 is not in their current catalog.

travis · February 5, 2006

Heinz 1370 is listed in the 2006 SSE Yearbook and, if I'm reading the blurb right, is offered by SSE itself. Does that mean it's in their public catalog? (Again, all my catalogs are at the office.) Or does it mean you have to be a member to order 1370 straight from the Yearbook?

PV

Woodenzoo · February 5, 2006

I had seen the Heinz 1439 somewhere and wondered about that as well.
I see everyone here coming up with numbers (1327, 1439, etc.), but wondering about the CXD #'s at the Campbell's site and how or if they relate. Are they just new varieties? Why don't they have the 1327, etc. listed?
It's great to see that Campbell's and Heinz make their seeds available and that such tomato aficionados such as yourselves, have good things to say about them.
I'm still pretty much new to tomato growing and have much to learn.

So thanks to all for the feedback!
And barkeater, I'll send you a PM. :wink:

**Mischka** · February 6, 2006

Thanks all for looking into a a new source for Heinz 1370 myself and others that may want to try it.

1370 adapts well to New England weather; generous yields of solid deep red tomatoes that taste great diced in salsas and also can up very nicely. Plant growth habit is shorter statured and easy to maintain. (I do not prune suckers)

I believe I bought my seeds from Chuck Wyatt the first year that I grew this variety.

As with many of the other commercial tomato processor developed varieties, I have to say that flavor is something they didn't overlook when they developed Heinz 1370. This is no "filler" tomato...it has plenty of taste.

I'll be certain to save seeds if I get my hands on them again this season.

clay199 · February 6, 2006

SSE is like any other member. They offer varieties and you need to be a member to obtain them via the yearbook. They change most or all of their available listings each year. Knowing in advance that they are offering 1370 means I will (as soon as my yearbook arrives) be ordering it and will plan for it in my garden.

Are there any other Campbell or Heinz varieties being offered?

barkeater · February 6, 2006

CatnTree, in some catalogs, 1327 is listed at 60 days, others 67 or 69. It isn't as early as a cherry or extra early tomatoes, but in areas of zone 6 or higher it is under 70 days, still considered early. Up here in zone 3 and probably your zone 4, add about 10 days. Last year my first Campbells was 78 days, compared to Sophies Choice which was 67 days.

If anyone is interested in Campbells 146, Sandhill has it. They describe it as 76 days, and semi-determinate.

February 4, 2006	#1
Woodenzoo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio z6 Posts: 141	Campbell's Soup Seeds While looking for some unrelated info, I came across this and wondered if anyone has tried them or has any opinions/thoughts about it. http://www.campbellseeds.com/about/

February 4, 2006	#2
Mischka Tomatoville® Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Bay State Posts: 3,207	I used to grow Heinz 1370 faithfully every year for the taste. I forgot to save seeds in 2005. I don't see it in TGSC's catalog this year so I'm going to have to do some hunting. I'm interested in trying more of the stabilized OP varieties that were bred by Heinz and Campbell Soup. __________________ Mischka One last word of farewell, Dear Master and Mistress. Whenever you visit my grave, say to yourselves with regret but also with happiness in your hearts at the remembrance of my long happy life with you: "Here lies one who loved us and whom we loved." No matter how deep my sleep I shall hear you, and not all the power of death can keep my spirit from wagging a grateful tail.

February 4, 2006	#4
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	Fred Dubose' book on tomatoes rates some of the Campbell and Heinz varieties. He rates Campbell 146 as the best flavored. I've had the seeds for years (probably too many years for them to germinate), from an SSE member, but have not grown it out. __________________ Craig

February 5, 2006	#7
Catntree Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 177	I like Campbell's 1327 a lot. Barkeater...I never considered it an early variety....what is the DTM of yours, roughly? Mine's about 80...maybe you have an earlier strain? __________________ Zone 4/5

February 5, 2006	#9
cottonpicker Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge Posts: 839	Hz 1370 Heinz 1370 is not in their current catalog. __________________ "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause". Victor Hugo

February 5, 2006	#5
clay199 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Beyond Hope, British Columbia Posts: 201	I ordered Campbells 1327, 1439 and Heinz 1350 from TGS and I am hoping for determinate type production. How many others are there available such as the Campbells 1370, 1943, and 170?

February 5, 2006	#6
barkeater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NE Kingdom, VT - Zone 3b Posts: 1,439	Woodenzoo, I haven't tried the other ones (yet!), but Campbells 1327 is my favorite early tomato. Totally Tomatoes sells it, or if you e-mail me your address I can send you some seeds.

February 5, 2006	#8
travis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,984	"Heinz 1370 - Breeder and vendor: H.J. Heinz Co., Bowling Green, Ohio. Parentage: Cornell 55-539 x E.S. 54-1878-B. Characteristics: productive, determinate, fruit firm, crack resistant. Resistance: fusarium wilt. Adaptation: Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Ontario, Canada. 1962." [NCSU N. American Cultivar Lists] Mischka, Did you look for Heinz 1370 on that page in the printed catalog where TGS puts all their "less popular" seeds and sell them for one price ... I think it's back around page 54 or so. Sorry, I don't have a print catalog at home today. Or you can look for 1370 in their cross index and see if they give you a page number. PV

February 6, 2006	#12
Mischka Tomatoville® Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Bay State Posts: 3,207	Thanks all for looking into a a new source for Heinz 1370 myself and others that may want to try it. 1370 adapts well to New England weather; generous yields of solid deep red tomatoes that taste great diced in salsas and also can up very nicely. Plant growth habit is shorter statured and easy to maintain. (I do not prune suckers) I believe I bought my seeds from Chuck Wyatt the first year that I grew this variety. As with many of the other commercial tomato processor developed varieties, I have to say that flavor is something they didn't overlook when they developed Heinz 1370. This is no "filler" tomato...it has plenty of taste. I'll be certain to save seeds if I get my hands on them again this season. __________________ Mischka One last word of farewell, Dear Master and Mistress. Whenever you visit my grave, say to yourselves with regret but also with happiness in your hearts at the remembrance of my long happy life with you: "Here lies one who loved us and whom we loved." No matter how deep my sleep I shall hear you, and not all the power of death can keep my spirit from wagging a grateful tail.