Cherokee Tiger, Dark Pear

ContainerTed · December 15, 2017

Here's some pictures of what I got this past season. Definitely unstable, but it sure did taste good. I'm looking for anyone else who tried this one and what results you got.

Thanks in advance.

ginger2778 · December 15, 2017

Ted mine looked very much like yours in the second photo, except they were absolutely pear-shaped, and there was rugose, chartreuse foliage. Did yours have chartreuse foliage?

AlittleSalt · December 15, 2017

Chartreuse foliage sounds interesting. I have always been interested in the way a plant looks.

Ted, I didn't know they existed, so no help from me this time.

ContainerTed · December 16, 2017

As you can see, no pear shapes. Taste was 8/10. Yes to chartreuse foliage. In my pictures above, picture #3 is actually the fruit in picture #2 cut open. Production was extremely high = I quit counting at 35 I'd estimate something over 50.

I'll grow yours along side this one this coming season. Should be "VERY interesting". (Sorry about that. I just watched an infomercial on the show "Laugh In")

Thanks, Marsha, for taking the time to look at this one.

Edited to add picture of seedlings. Now I wish I had grown out the one without the chartreuse color as well. Again, my brain is late to the party.

Edited to add: And my seedlings and plant were not dwarf. Full sized indeterminate medium sized plants that produced all the way to frost.

ginger2778 · December 16, 2017

Was your foliage rugose? Mine grew to almost 6' but did have rugose foliage. I always have time for you Ted. Happy to help.

Patihum · December 16, 2017

The pear shape showed up on one of my CT Black plants back in 2014. The plant was dwarf and had chartreuse foliage. I passed the seeds out in trades in 2015. While I haven't grown it again it was used in 2 crosses using Beduoin and Cherokee Green Pear both of which have produced the pear shape but the chartreuse foliage has been hit and miss along with the dwarf size. All have produced good tasting tomatoes.

ginger2778 · December 16, 2017

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Originally Posted by Patihum

The pear shape showed up on one of my CT Black plants back in 2014. The plant was dwarf and had chartreuse foliage. I passed the seeds out in trades in 2015. While I haven't grown it again it was used in 2 crosses using Beduoin and Cherokee Green Pear both of which have produced the pear shape but the chartreuse foliage has been hit and miss along with the dwarf size. All have produced good tasting tomatoes.

Patihum was my seed source and they grew true to her pictures, except the size of the plant. Pat, was your plant a very large dwarf?

Patihum · December 16, 2017

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Originally Posted by ginger2778

Patihum was my seed source and they grew true to her pictures, except the size of the plant. Pat, was your plant a very large dwarf?

Yes it was fairly large but definitely dwarf - had rugose foliage.

KarenO · December 16, 2017

Is there also one called Cherokee tiger dark red?
When I grew that one I did not know about the expected chartreuse foliage and couldn’t figure out what was wrong with the seedlings

. Then I realized they were supposed to be that paler lime green. That one produced very firm medium beefsteaks red with yellow stripes in a shorter dwarf with very long sprawling laterals. Unusual form.
Who bred these?
KarenO

ContainerTed · December 16, 2017

The seeds I grew to produce the pictures and descriptions above came from MorayEelBite. Now, please know that I'm only interested in this one because it has that great tomato taste that I love to capture and present for other folks. Plus, my current efforts are to make sure I have the right name on this obviously unstable segregate.

I think growing Marsha's version along side my 2017 results will help shed some light on this issue. But I would really like to hear any other data others have to offer from their experiences.

Please, let's continue the discussion.

Patihum · December 16, 2017

MEB would have received the seeds from Marsha or me.

KarenO · December 17, 2017

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Originally Posted by Patihum

MEB would have received the seeds from Marsha or me.

Do you know who the breeder is?
KO

ginger2778 · December 17, 2017

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Originally Posted by KarenO

Do you know who the breeder is?
KO

I do not, do you Pat? I think it can be researched on Doc and Katie's. For some reason stuff on that site doesn't show up on a Google search.

Patihum · December 17, 2017

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Originally Posted by ginger2778

I do not, do you Pat? I think it can be researched on Doc and Katie's. For some reason stuff on that site doesn't show up on a Google search.

Bill Jeffers was the breeder. Original cross was Tigerette X Cherokee Purple.

KarenO · December 17, 2017

Thank you for this. Good to know who bred these.
Karen0

December 16, 2017	#9
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	Is there also one called Cherokee tiger dark red? When I grew that one I did not know about the expected chartreuse foliage and couldn’t figure out what was wrong with the seedlings . Then I realized they were supposed to be that paler lime green. That one produced very firm medium beefsteaks red with yellow stripes in a shorter dwarf with very long sprawling laterals. Unusual form. Who bred these? KarenO Last edited by KarenO; December 16, 2017 at 03:59 PM.

December 16, 2017	#10
ContainerTed Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 6a - NE Tennessee Posts: 4,538	The seeds I grew to produce the pictures and descriptions above came from MorayEelBite. Now, please know that I'm only interested in this one because it has that great tomato taste that I love to capture and present for other folks. Plus, my current efforts are to make sure I have the right name on this obviously unstable segregate. I think growing Marsha's version along side my 2017 results will help shed some light on this issue. But I would really like to hear any other data others have to offer from their experiences. Please, let's continue the discussion. __________________ Ted ________________________ Owner & Sole Operator Of The Muddy Bucket Farm and Tomato Ranch Last edited by ContainerTed; December 16, 2017 at 07:00 PM.

December 15, 2017	#2
ginger2778 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10 Posts: 9,283	Ted mine looked very much like yours in the second photo, except they were absolutely pear-shaped, and there was rugose, chartreuse foliage. Did yours have chartreuse foliage?

December 15, 2017	#3
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	Chartreuse foliage sounds interesting. I have always been interested in the way a plant looks. Ted, I didn't know they existed, so no help from me this time.

December 16, 2017	#6
Patihum Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Southeast Kansas Posts: 878	The pear shape showed up on one of my CT Black plants back in 2014. The plant was dwarf and had chartreuse foliage. I passed the seeds out in trades in 2015. While I haven't grown it again it was used in 2 crosses using Beduoin and Cherokee Green Pear both of which have produced the pear shape but the chartreuse foliage has been hit and miss along with the dwarf size. All have produced good tasting tomatoes.

December 17, 2017	#15
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	Thank you for this. Good to know who bred these. Karen0