Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Kansas
Posts: 57
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Have you had success with it?
We recently brewed a batch for the first time, and now we are unsure of how much to give the plants. Anyone have any experience with it? |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Downingtown, PA
Posts: 337
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i use an aerated tea, start with about 4.5 gallons of water and my mix, brew for 42 to 78 hours and then I foliar feed till the leaves are dripping wet about every 2 to 3 weeks in the evening. If I have any left over I water the root zones of my heavy feeders with it.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 587
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I have, but I cheat. In addition to the conventional ingredients, I add http://www.horticulturalalliance.com...ulant-compound. Cost is about $7 per 25 gallon brew. I only apply once at planting.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 857
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Depends. Compost tea can be applied at root zone, if you did not add anything else , no restrictions. Aerated compost tea usually brewed for foliar applications, again you can go full strength or dilute it with non chlorinated water.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: San Diego-Tijuana
Posts: 2,594
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Once to twice a week is what I've been doing lately, drench at 1/2 to full strength. Plants have been able to handle disease burden + climate inconsistencies much better since I began this regimen.
Veg Compost/worm castings +/-alfalfa is the winning combo for me, 48-72 hrs. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7
Posts: 4,916
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What is in compost that its tea make a difference ?
How do you figure it out how much water to add to how much compost ? Then there are many kinds of compost. It depends on what the original matter was. Some can be real poor in the way of nutrients. I think probably aerating is what make the difference. I have made tea from manures and birds droppings for root drench only and I saw good results. Gardeneer |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
Posts: 8,407
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I use about two cups of material in a five gallon bucket, which is not quite full of water, to allow some room for bubbling, and add about a tablespoon of molasses.
I use material dug out of a cow field, collected in winter after freezing weather has killed off the weeds. My first batch of 2017 is bubbling away in my kitchen right now. It's only been going for a couple hours: |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7
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Unless one really fine mists a given foliar spray, most of it (when drenched ) lands at the ground and eventually gets to the roots system. So how can one be sure where the most benefit comes from, foliage or the roots ??
JMO
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Gardeneer Happy Gardening ! |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
Posts: 8,407
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Good question. I use it mostly as a soil drench for container plants, especially young ones.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Santa Maria California
Posts: 1,013
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
Posts: 8,407
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Brewing goes slower in winter, because my kitchen is colder.
This is about 40 hours later. Note the increased foam. It smells nice, like a hay loft in the summertime. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,069
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If you look at reviews of scientific literature, compost tea is so much of a mixed bag that it's unlikely that it has any strong effect, IMO. Some studies show plants doing a bit better, others a bit worse, others no effect. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ So I just choose not to go through the hassle of making the tea. I just apply compost itself as dressing, in planting holes, and mulch with it. I do mix my vermicompost with water and water it in because that just works better with the texture of vermicompost and helps me strain out baby worms and cocoons. But I don't brew it--just mix and apply.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
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As an initial soil drench in side-by-side tests with untreated pro mix, I have seen a dramatic difference in germination speed and growth in early seedlings. I was doing the experiment in the fall, so I did not grow out the plants very long. The material I use for the tea is the same as what I grow my plants in and get great results without fertilizer. I haven't been trying to look at samples under a microscope, and plus my material is I'm sure a little different each time I collect it, so it could just be the humates that make it work so well. It's the same substance that makes worm castings so effective. You can see in the pic below, the material is very dark and looks almost identical to worm castings.
Myco products range from $5-20 per ounce of powdered spores. I just ordered a few different ones. I'm hoping to play around with culturing a tiny amount to make a little bit go a long way. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 87
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I know this isn't the same, but has anyone tried manure tea? I've used Haven brand in the past and I know at least my roses enjoy it!
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,069
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