Marko's Flortis is the winner

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Marko

Carolyn, you suggested the name Flortis Cherry :


We can change the name, but I think we already left the spirit out of the bottle.

HEre's the original thread Marko and yes I did suggest calling it Flortis Cherry but that was before Alex posted right after that that he got seeds for Nano Ciliega from a different seed company and now someone here just asked about seeds for this from Franchi.

http://www.amseed.com/pdfs/DiseaseGuide-BCT-English.pdf

Then I went to Tania's site and no listing for Ciliega, but a listing for Nano Ciliega:

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Nano_Ciliegia

And then I started thinking since there are at least several seed companies that offer seed for this variety, I wondered why it should be called Flortis, the name of a seed company that Marko got his seeds from and not Franchi or the seed company that Alex mentioned as to his source.

Look, I don't want to create problems here at all, I just question naming a variety after the name of a seed company when there are more than one seed company offering the variety.

To me it's kind of like the variety known as Large Red Cherry which has been sold by many places in the past and not all listed at Tania's site b/c the history of Large Red Cherry is a long one indeed;

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...d_Cherry_Large


So I will continue to refer to it as Nano Ciliega which is the alternative spelling that Tania gives for Ciliegia.

Iva, I found your comments interesting and why do you think that the Ciliega's that you've grown can be so different and did you purchase the seed from different Italian companies?

[DiggingDogFarm]

Carolyn,

I'm totally confused!!!

This seems to fly in the face of some of the points you've made in your Pretty Please????? thread.

It makes sense that you would call the variety you got from Alex, Nano Ciliegia, it does not makes sense to me to assume that Nano Ciliegia (Dwarf Cherry) and Ciliegia (Cherry) offered by Marko are the same variety.....based on the fact that they came from different seed companies, have different generic names, along with some of the points made above.
Nobody has grown the two to compare, Alex said that he hasn't even grown the variety himself, yet.

I got seeds from Marko last July from the original packet, I'd be happy to send you a couple plants (if all goes well) so that you can compare the two before this becomes another naming disaster!

I think it prudent to err on the side of caution and not make assumptions.


~Martin

[FILMNET]

So am I confused, what in the world did i start? I have an Italian friend 95 years old, still tough as nails. He was gardener since 1939. He know the language, and i am giving him a Florist cheery plant and will show him both names

[DiggingDogFarm]

Originally Posted by FILMNET

So am I confused, what in the world did i start? I have an Italian friend 95 years old, still tough as nails. He was gardener since 1939. He know the language, and i am giving him a Florist cheery plant and will show him both names

Better yet, show him a picture of the no nano original seed packet!!




~Martin

[NewWestGardener]

Today, I just collected 7.4 lbs of fruit from one plant. Look at those clusters, the fruit does not seem to be falling off easily, I'm just going to hang them up in the shed and see what happens. Drying off the others in Nesco.
I did not water or fertiliz them for the last 6 weeks, which obviously affected their size, but they are real troopers!.
A million thanks to Marko who generously sent me the seed!

[Iva]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Iva, I found your comments interesting and why do you think that the Ciliega's that you've grown can be so different and did you purchase the seed from different Italian companies?

I often go to Italy as it is a neighbor country to Slovenia. Whenever I go there, I don't miss a chance to visit one of their garden centers and buy seeds. We don't have such variation of seeds at home.
And as it is normal for a Tomato lover to buy tomato seeds, I always bought all varieties I could get my hands on to grow them out. That was before I started trading across the pond and knowing there are m ore than just red tomatoes in existence...

Well, there were many cherry tomatoes sold by different seed companies and named either Ciliega or Ciliegia, just a different spelling for the same thing - a cherry tomato.

Tried many of them and all were slightly different in color, size texture and taste. None were all that good.

That is why I said you can't just put them all 'in the same basket' and say they should all be named just Ciliegia or similar. Because they were all very different.

I think it is similar to the story of Cuor di Bue or Cuore de Buof (I didn't bother to spell this right just now, sorry, but you know what I mean) and such, where all are a translation of the same thing, but some are the same and some are very different. That is just my two cents...

As for it being 'named' after a seed company, I don't mind that, the name sounds really nice, Flortis can be translated into Floral or Flower and that is really a nice name for a tomato, but it is up to Marko to decide what the name should be...

[FILMNET]

Translation of the packages says this Variety of Sweet Pulp Aromatic tomato Cherry
Italian translation of Sweet Cherry is Ciliegio Dolce