Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indiana
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This is my first time growing Madera. When is it best picked and when does it have the best flavor?
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sunol, CA
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Pick at brick-red to brown. It ripens very slowly if you pick earlier, but it hangs at brick-red brown for days without getting over ripe.
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Tomatovillian™
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Thanks. I am very pleased with Madera thus far. Very flavorful. Only a little splitting after a rain. Looks like it will be a "keeper."
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2010
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That's great!
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Ontario
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I was keeping a few Madeira F1 in a little bowl, with a view to ripening them well before tasting. I had to pick them early because of rain in the forecast. Hubby used them this morning in our cooked breakfast and they were very tasty cooked! Guess I'll have to wait some more before I can do a true taste test.......
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Cooked? Interesting.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Ontario
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Oh yes. He grabs any kind of tomatoes to fry, along with our weekend bacon and egg
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
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I can definitely see the hybrid vigor. I planted mine late and am just now starting to pick.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indiana
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![]() I should add -- love the slightly crunchy texture and excellent shelf life. Last edited by Greatgardens; August 24, 2020 at 03:17 PM. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Ontario
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I'm loving Madeira F1 too. I stood in front of the bush the other day gorging myself on them. It's a very productive and healthy variety and even the slight crunchiness is no deterrent
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Laval, Quebec - Zone 5B
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I second your experience Linda, Madera is definitely returning next year in my garden!
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sunol, CA
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So, if you want the same Madera experience, you will have to buy F1 seed again. Unless you saved some of the original F1 seed. One final note: The extended shelf-life trait can not be dehybridized. Because it depends on one "rin" parent, and one normally ripening parent. Nonetheless, dehybridation is perfectly fine with me. I have no problem with it at all.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Alabama
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Have you considered using "alc" instead of "rin"? The shelf life is better.
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I am not ruling out that I may have some lines with weak alleles of alc, because I have some lines that have weaker increase in shelf life. But I am not consciously adding alc lines. Do you have any with great flavor?
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Tomatovillian™
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Location: Alabama
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Most of the Italian and Spanish "hanging" tomatoes have alc. Piennolo del Vesuvio is the only one I have that likely carries this gene. It has to be homozygous to give best effect. I can put a Piennolo tomato on the counter and leave it there for a month with little or no change. I've eaten them at 3 months old that were slightly wrinkled from moisture loss, but otherwise tasted like a garden fresh tomato.
I have fresh seed if you would like to trial it. Also, Piennolo is potato leaf which makes most crosses easy to verify. |
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