Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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August 4, 2023 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Walla Walla, Washington
Posts: 360
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Best blacks, looking for opinions
I'm busy planning for next year, and would like to try two new black tomatoes. I've been growing Black Seaman and Japanese Trifele Black for a number of years and they have been great, I'm just ready to try something new. I do eat them fresh/sliced, but mainly roast them for roasted tomato-tomato sauce. Got any suggestions? And thank you.
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August 4, 2023 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2007
Location: North County, San Diego
Posts: 419
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Carbon and Japanese Trifele Black
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August 4, 2023 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 5,931
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Cowboy, Polaris, one trick pony are three of my dark tomatoes you might like to look into
KarenO Last edited by KarenO; August 5, 2023 at 03:05 AM. |
August 4, 2023 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tulsa, OK
Posts: 115
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I'll second Polaris and Cowboy. Outstanding!
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August 5, 2023 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,250
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J.D.'s Special C-tex and Black From tula should be considered.
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August 5, 2023 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2007
Location: North County, San Diego
Posts: 419
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Black Cherry
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August 5, 2023 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brownville, Ne
Posts: 3,294
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These have done well for me in my garden. I think a lot depends on location as to how well some blacks do.
Amazon Chocolate Bear Creek Brad's Black Heart Brandywine Black/True Black Carbon Cherndoe Serdtse Cherokee Purple/ Purple Heart Clear Lake Heirloom Daniel Burson Indische Fleisch Shokoloadnoe Chudo If you like cherry tomatoes: Black Cherry
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August 5, 2023 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 139
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If you're open to the so-called "heirloom marriage" hybrids, Cherokee Carbon is an amazing tomato. Delicious, healthy, vigorous, and extremely productive here in hot, humid zone 7 northern Virginia. It's a general purpose, slicing type of tomato.
Since you're mainly cooking with them, maybe Purple Russian (a.k.a. Ukrainian Purple)? Or maybe Shokoladnaya Sosulka (Chocolate Icicle) if you also like the brownish black tomatoes, as opposed to just the purplish blacks. |
August 5, 2023 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Central MN, USDA Zone 3
Posts: 302
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I bet there's some variability in conditions, but I'm going to throw this out:
My daughter, and her foodie squeeze asked me to grow a few Black Plum starts a couple of years back, so I found seeds. I grew 2 or 3 as well. I start some every year now. They thought it made the best-flavored sauce...both the ones they bought at the farmers market and what they grew. Mama and I cook about half the moisture out of them and make sauce. It DOES taste very good...sprightly and bright...but the greenish brown color takes some getting used to. Sent from my motorola edge (2022) using Tapatalk
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indialantic, Florida
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I need to check out Cowboy and One Trick Pony. I haven't heard of them. ----- Hot, humid climate but opposite growing season and all dark tomatoes usually set fruit really well. Height of production is when light hours are the least. Problem is splitting and cracking with the dark tomatoes - especially JD Tex and Black from Tula. I never grown Carbon (actually I tried but tomato was not carbon), but I have grown Cherokee Carbon and very good results. But the best 2 I have grown overall were Buffalo Soldier and Margaret Curtain (both this past season). Also Big Cheef was doing tremendous but was too huge to move during the hurricane so had to fend for itself; same with Daniel Burson which I will try again. I grew Japenese Trifele Black this past season and the plant sets so much fruit. I didn't like it at all. The year I grew Black Seaman, it never ripened evenly so didn't grow again. I grow all tomatoes in fabric bags or Earthboxes, never the ground or raised beds (Nematodes) so that may affect the taste etc. Favorite dark cherry tomatos are Sun Chocola and Sun Garnet; both are hybrids. Other darks that I have tried were: Paul Robeson Black Prince, I just didn't like the size. |
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August 5, 2023 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: California Central Valley
Posts: 2,543
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Polaris is exceptional! Not as productive as I'd like, but it's the best black tomato-sandwich tomato I've tried in my climate.
Purple Boy F1 is pretty good. Much smaller, rounder tomatoes, but dependable and sweet (and nematode-resistant, which is why I started growing them). They've been about the same size as Japanese Black Trifele this year. In a cooler-summer climate, I really liked Purple Brandy (aka Marizol Bratka), though it's more a pink-purple than a black. Last edited by habitat_gardener; August 5, 2023 at 06:05 PM. |
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