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Old November 15, 2013   #1
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Does anyone know the background history to the juane flamme tomato ? I read it is from Norbert Parreira of France but does anyone know of any of the tomatoes in it's background? I am interested in where it got it's color and high beta carotene content. craig
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Old November 15, 2013   #2
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It's shows it as a French heirloom at Tatiana's. http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Jaune_Flamm%C3%A9e

Look at Carolyn's Post here. It's number 5 in this thread. http://tomatoville.com/showthread.ph...ane#post250026
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Does anyone know the background history to the juane flamme tomato ? I read it is from Norbert Parreira of France but does anyone know of any of the tomatoes in it's background? I am interested in where it got it's color and high beta carotene content. craig
It was a fully stable variety when I got it from Norbert, just as were all the other ones I got, just as all the other stable varieties we know of numbering in the many thousands.

So nothing at all is known about its background. Almost all of the OP varieties we know of were originally accidental cross pollinations, where F2 seeds were saved and used and selections made and those selections carried out to genetic stability.

Is it documented somewhere that it has high beta carotene content?

If so I sure would put Earl of Edgecombe right up there as well, but I don't think that one has been documented as having high beta carotene content either, or has it?

Hope that helps,

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I had it come up this year voluntarily from the year before.
Grew all summer and is now once again loaded with tomatoes.

I like flamme.

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http://treecropsresearch.org/files/2...-varieties.xls Here is a link that shows tomatoes tested and it came out number one in beta carotene and total carotenoids. I have been trying to breed a healthier tomato and I just wondered what parents were in its background that gave it such good qualities and such a good taste.
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I grew my very first tomato this last spring and it was Juane Flamme. I got the seeds from the USDA Grin program. They were extremely prolific plants and Delicious. When all of the tomato plants died out, Juane Flamme came back and produced another 15 lbs. at least. I had 7 plants. My freezer is packed full!!! Such a great tasting tomato!
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Jaune Flammée

has been a good variety for delivering aromatics and flavor into my breeding work for almost 18 years. I can't even count how many ways it has been utilized in dozens of pedigrees of some of my best tomatoes. The standout this year was my Flaming Burst which originally was from it crossed with my Verde Claro. This past season Flaming Burst was a parent in at least a dozen crosses to test as contingency F-1 hybrids to best tested in several locations this winter.


The quality of the Flaming Burst is such that I sent a sample of seed to Thailand to test it for uniformity. If it is fully stable it will be in one my "Tom Wagner Collections" marketed widely. You can be sure that Jaune Flamme will be in many high flavored lines in the future.


Here is the Flaming Busrt photo I sent to one of my webmasters.


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It is a great tomato, but the name, Brilliant Yellow in French, is not correct, since mine were more orange.
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Oooh that flaming burst looks great!
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Old November 25, 2013   #10
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Cold snap today, 11-25-2013 I picked about 20 of these things from my plants.
Just in time for Thanksgiving.

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Didn't know you were a vegetarian Worth.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving roasted tomatoes - the rest of us will be having turkey .

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I'm going to have to grow this again. I grew it once quite a while ago and was not a fan. it was... meh... OK for me, nothing special IMO and I didn't grow it again ... maybe it was the seed I had??
I'll try it again with different seed because everyone raves about it so it has to be better than the ones I grew. (or maybe it's my area/garden/climate/soil/zone/taste buds etc.) Only one way to find out, grow it again and see.
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Didn't know you were a vegetarian Worth.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving roasted tomatoes - the rest of us will be having turkey .

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Linda I'll have you know I am NOT a vegetarian.
The tomatoes will go as a side dish with the roasted turkey as my famous tomato cucumber, kalamata olive, onion and pepper salad.
Toped with EVO black pepper and a good aged balsamic syrup vinegar

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"Toped"? I haven't seen a toped salad in many years. Hope you enjoy it!
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Worth,

Your turkey and salad sound delish (even if it is "toped").

Why didn't you invite me?

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